Indian village “clutter” in 28mm?

[sjwalker51]

Suggestions please for ‘stuff’ I need to add to my tipis and wicki-ups (Sioux or Apache villages) other than hide-frames, travois etc?

What’s available commercially and what will I need to scratch-build? (OK, get one of my more talented mates to scratch-build!)

[has.been]

Groups of wickerwork baskets. Dogs. Diorama of women weaving, cooking etc.
Horse lines. Group of children playing.  Tepee being taken down/put up.
Bundles of fodder/crops for food. water containers. Prisoner (staked out?).
Trade goods (with trader?).  Lodge pole pines being stripped for use.
Fishing diorama. Sweat lodge. Sun-dance/ Ghost dance or other ceremony.
Drums. Partially stripped Buffalo. Dead body on scaffold (available from Grubby Tanks
who hold the Britannia range).

Try watching & taking notes of any Western films that TV is showing.
I hope this helps.

[Harry Faversham]

Dixon Miniatures do some good stuff in 25mm, might fit in though as clutter...

 

[zippyfusenet]

"At first sight of an Indian camp,... ...what you think is: 'I see their dump. Where's the camp?'" - Jack Crabbe, Little Big Man

I suppose you're looking for 28mm scale props?

I'd expect that Sioux vs. Apache camps would look some different: different environments, high plains vs. semi-arid; different domestic economies. buffalo hunter vs. rabbit hunter. Depends also on the era, 1830s vs. 1860s vs. 1880s.

In either case, most valuable personal property would be secured inside the lodges: parfleches, blankets, spare clothing, tools, weapons.

Maybe in hot weather women would cook over a fire outside, rather than inside a lodge. The Imex plastic 1/72 American Pioneers, Pilgrims, Eastern Friendly Indians and Lewis and Clark sets all include one or more pieces of camp cooking equipment, and some include hide frames and other camp furnishings. They're all a bit small for 28mm, but usable - the kettle hanging from a tripod is a small kettle, is all. The bark wigwam is tiny for 28mm, but big enough to be something a lone hunter might build to keep the rain off, and so on.

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=490

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=805

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=606

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=405

I use some of the figures from these sets as teenagers and children in my 28mm collection. I usually choose figs without prominent beards or boobs, but sometimes I shave them down with a sharp knife.

Here's a Karl Bodmer painting of a Sioux camp c.1833. There isn't much to be seen outside of the tipis:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipi#/media/File:Tipi01.jpg

[Poiter50]

Pegasus Hobbies 1/48 California Mission Indians # 7004 set might be useful. Not for button counters but YMMV.

[zippyfusenet]

I had a sudden thought that an Indian village would probably include a woodpile or a few, since wood was the principal fuel used for heating and cooking. I'm just guessing, but I suppose the piles would include a high proportion of gathered deadfall, and only a limited amount of big limbs and trunks systematically cut and split for cord wood.

Even in non-forested plains and mountain regions, Indian camps were often located where people could access water and wood, since these were vital resources.

Out on the absolutely treeless Great Plains, people burned buffalo dung for fuel. I suppose buffalo chips would also have been stockpiled for use. I have no idea what a pile of chips would have looked like.

[Harry Faversham]

I have no idea what a pile of chips would have looked like.

There you go...



 

[zippyfusenet]

Harry, I appreciate the help from someone whose life experience goes so very far beyond my own.

I wonder what a good frog-drowner rainstorm would do to a pile like that? It's prolly a good thing that the skies are not cloudy all day.

[has.been]

Harry! I never guessed you were such an expert on.. Bull  S,H, one, T.

[Harry Faversham]

When it comes to talking c!*p...
I'm yer man!!!

 

[Poiter50]

 

When it comes to talking c!*p...
I'm yer man!!!