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Offline commissarmoody

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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #106 on: January 07, 2019, 01:38:24 AM »
Cool, thanks for sharing.
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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #107 on: January 07, 2019, 09:47:03 PM »
Fascinating photo.  Is it Berlin or Munich ?   We see two MG08/15 lt. mgs and a flamethrower (note how the wand operator either has his boots untucked or seemingly lacks puttees).  And the fellow in the center of the photo is quite interesting as he is wearing his pickelhaube (uncovered, no less) and stohwasser gaiters (rather than the puttees of his comrades).  I think he may be a medic (looks like he has medic pouches, and the white armband - which is partially obscured -  is in the correct position on his left arm and seems to have what could be a cross).

Offline huevans

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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #108 on: January 07, 2019, 11:14:41 PM »
It was posted on a FB page called "Berlin War Tourist" which specializes in then-and-now photos of Berlin during both World Wars (usually WW2 / 1945) and current.

See also...


https://www.alamyimages.fr/photo-image-les-troupes-gouvernementales-pendant-la-revolte-de-spartacus-1919-37005749.html?fbclid=IwAR3Wu-Aa4v-fvw_c5EcYzRpXrRgrYM-HodZdJ6Ljr5zKCdUjpHD91TsFAVw
« Last Edit: January 07, 2019, 11:27:15 PM by huevans »

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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #109 on: January 07, 2019, 11:31:58 PM »
Fascinating photo.  Is it Berlin or Munich ?   We see two MG08/15 lt. mgs and a flamethrower (note how the wand operator either has his boots untucked or seemingly lacks puttees).  And the fellow in the center of the photo is quite interesting as he is wearing his pickelhaube (uncovered, no less) and stohwasser gaiters (rather than the puttees of his comrades).  I think he may be a medic (looks like he has medic pouches, and the white armband - which is partially obscured -  is in the correct position on his left arm and seems to have what could be a cross).

Just reading that government troops / freikorps wore white armbands to distinguish themselves from the Reds.

https://www.alamyimages.fr/photo-image-revolution-allemande-19181919-un-gouvernement-militaire-brassard-blanc-est-represente-en-position-de-combat-a-berlin-en-allemagne-au-cours-de-la-des-combats-de-rue-date-inconnue-photo-berliner-verlagarchiv-57705277.html

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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #110 on: January 08, 2019, 01:09:03 AM »
Fascinating photo.  Is it Berlin or Munich ?   We see two MG08/15 lt. mgs and a flamethrower (note how the wand operator either has his boots untucked or seemingly lacks puttees).  And the fellow in the center of the photo is quite interesting as he is wearing his pickelhaube (uncovered, no less) and stohwasser gaiters (rather than the puttees of his comrades).  I think he may be a medic (looks like he has medic pouches, and the white armband - which is partially obscured -  is in the correct position on his left arm and seems to have what could be a cross).

Ah it's a flamethrower! I thought they a group of heavily armed German plumbers with a roto rooter.
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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #111 on: January 08, 2019, 02:55:27 AM »
I believe there's more pictures of this group, or a similar one, including the flamethrower crew in action, but I'm not sure which old thread they can be found in.

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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #112 on: January 08, 2019, 08:32:37 PM »
Huevans, it could be the white brassard for Freikorps troops, but notice that none of his comrades are wearing them.  Also, looking at the pictures you attached of Freikorps wearing the white brassard, they all seem to be wearing it on the right arm, while this individual is wearing an armband on the left arm (again, the correct position for a medic's armband as uniformly - pardon the pun - worn in WW 1).   See the attached pictures below :

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3943/33606458636_f631b553d8_b.jpg

http://www.ddoughty.com/uploads/1/4/0/9/14095491/1355942.jpg?1411102773

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/37/43/5e/37435e47eaf54ebe06b89ae46cc3f403.jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/151658119110-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.xojRiJWJl2LoS6gHRGUaUAAAAA&pid=Api&P=0&w=256&h=171

http://redrockweb.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/ww1-uniform-uniforms-spring-offensive-military-buttons.jpg


As for the use of flamethrowers against the Spartacists, FramFramson you may be thinking of this group (which had several photos taken of them; there are two in the Schiffer Military History book by Charles Wooley on Freikorps uniforms and equpiment ) :

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/pRzSGRf.jpg

And there is this well-known photo :
https://image.pbs.org/poster_images/assets/310552.JPG.resize.710x399.jpg


 

Offline huevans

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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #113 on: January 08, 2019, 11:44:44 PM »
I think you are correct my learned friend. The medic's brassard appears to have a red cross (or some other symbol) on it.

I will provide some opposition to the Freikorps lads though!...


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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #114 on: January 11, 2019, 10:08:55 PM »
And not only armed workers, but also appears as if there are a few Matrosen (sailors) aboard, as well as at least a couple of old soldiers in at least parts of their uniforms.

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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #115 on: January 11, 2019, 10:37:20 PM »
Well I've got the transport covered for when you do. ;)

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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #116 on: January 12, 2019, 03:30:31 AM »
A timely thread - I'm starting to see if 2019 is the year I paint my Freikorps.
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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #117 on: January 13, 2019, 11:44:16 AM »
@Tin shed gamer: beautiful truck! The painting/weathering is absolutely stunning! Who makes this one?

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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #118 on: January 13, 2019, 09:50:52 PM »
@Tin shed gamer: beautiful truck! The painting/weathering is absolutely stunning! Who makes this one?
He did.

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Re: Tsuba new Freikorps
« Reply #119 on: January 14, 2019, 02:51:10 AM »