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Offline Ignatieff

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Mongolian infantry c.1920
« on: January 02, 2019, 05:22:51 PM »
Does anyone have any visual references for Mongolian infantry that would have fought with Ungern-Sterberg?

Any and all help gratefully received 

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Offline Lord Raglan

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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2019, 07:47:54 PM »
Does this mean you are starting to play test the next scenario book  ;)

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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2019, 08:32:59 PM »
Here's a couple of pictures that I know of.
If your off to York next month I'd be intrigued to know more.

Mark.

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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2019, 10:39:06 PM »
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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2019, 01:37:10 AM »
Mongolians c 1924 - not the Barons's men but I wonder why nobody  has not made one of these.

https://armoredcars-ww-one.blogspot.com/2012/04/mongolian-machine-gun-car.html

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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2019, 10:56:12 AM »
Mongolians c 1924 - not the Barons's men but I wonder why nobody  has not made one of these.

https://armoredcars-ww-one.blogspot.com/2012/04/mongolian-machine-gun-car.html

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Is that an A Ford?

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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2019, 10:58:42 AM »
Is that an A Ford?

Obviously can't be. Production of Model A started 1928

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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2019, 07:31:14 PM »
Obviously can't be. Production of Model A started 1928

I'm wondering about that dating of that photo then, because that car looks much newer (and obviously it's far from new in the photo) than anything on offer during WWI.


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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2019, 07:38:41 PM »
I'm wondering about that dating of that photo then, because that car looks much newer (and obviously it's far from new in the photo) than anything on offer during WWI.

I was considering that to. But on the other hand by when would a model A have reached Mongolia? Early 30's, probably.

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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2019, 08:04:55 PM »
Nope my money was on a Dodge Brothers touring car. They'd been floating around in the area since 1920. In fact several American expeditions used them in Mongolia through the 20's.
I made one for a commission 16 months ago in 1/32.

Mark.

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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2019, 08:53:44 AM »
Thanks chaps....that third pic from Tin Shed is particularly useful.

S

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Offline cuprum

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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2019, 05:37:37 PM »
On these photos, the Soviet copy of the Ford A - GAZ-A. Began produced in the USSR in 1932.





Red Mongols Van Hure and their "red" instructors. 1921.

That's the theme on my forum on "white" in Mongolia: http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?tid=415&fid=29&block=10

And "red" in the same place: http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?tid=211&fid=12&block=0

There are some interesting photos.


And there are still very blurred photos with instructions on the uniforms of the Mongolian Red Army 1921-24


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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2019, 06:06:31 PM »
On these photos, the Soviet copy of the Ford A - GAZ-A. Began produced in the USSR in 1932.





Red Mongols Van Hure and their "red" instructors. 1921.

That's the theme on my forum on "white" in Mongolia: http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?tid=415&fid=29&block=10

And "red" in the same place: http://siberia-miniatures.ru/forum/showthread.php?tid=211&fid=12&block=0

There are some interesting photos.


And there are still very blurred photos with instructions on the uniforms of the Mongolian Red Army 1921-24



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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2019, 06:07:44 PM »
Nope my money was on a Dodge Brothers touring car. They'd been floating around in the area since 1920. In fact several American expeditions used them in Mongolia through the 20's.
I made one for a commission 16 months ago in 1/32.

Mark.

Good to know. Do they exist in 1/48 to 56 or 28mm?

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Re: Mongolian infantry c.1920
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2019, 06:13:24 PM »
Nope my money was on a Dodge Brothers touring car. They'd been floating around in the area since 1920. In fact several American expeditions used them in Mongolia through the 20's.
I made one for a commission 16 months ago in 1/32.

Mark.

In the early 30s, the explorer Sven Hedin rattled around Sinkiang in a fleet of Model As, donated by that deplorable old nazi fanboy Mr Ford himself.