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Offline manchesterreg

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #510 on: May 14, 2019, 05:11:15 PM »
another 3 more packs ordered for a range i was not going to buy :)

Offline Empress Miniatures

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #511 on: May 15, 2019, 09:03:18 AM »
Thanks for the great comments everyone. Glad you like them. Lots more to come  ;)

Offline Ash

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #512 on: May 15, 2019, 05:47:01 PM »
I'm nearly done with my first four blokes, they are really nice. Definitely ordering more.

Just out of interest what would have been the make up of a standard marine section & platoon?

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #513 on: May 15, 2019, 05:53:17 PM »
Great news. Payday on Monday. Also interested in the question posed by Ash. Although I intend to buy all of the figures as they are available so squad numbers here will depend. To a certain extent on Empress.

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #514 on: May 15, 2019, 08:40:43 PM »
I'm nearly done with my first four blokes, they are really nice. Definitely ordering more.

Just out of interest what would have been the make up of a standard marine section & platoon?

I think we did this before but for those at the back of the class and not paying attention paper strengths were

Platoon consists of a PHQ with an officer, platoon sergeant, RTO and a US Navy corpsman (medic).
Three squads, each of fourteen men, thirteen rifle armed, one with an M-79.

At Coy level there were six M-60s, six M-20 3.5”RLs as well as a mortar section of three 60mm mortars. The mortars usually stayed with the weapons platoon under the direction of the Coy Cmdr, the M-60s were almost invariably attached to the three rifle platoons, two to each platoon. The rocket launchers were also attached the rifle platoons, as and when required.
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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #515 on: May 15, 2019, 08:48:29 PM »
I think we did this before but for those at the back of the class and not paying attention paper strengths were

Platoon consists of a PHQ with an officer, platoon sergeant, RTO and a US Navy corpsman (medic).
Three squads, each of fourteen men, thirteen rifle armed, one with an M-79.

At Coy level there were six M-60s, six M-20 3.5”RLs as well as a mortar section of three 60mm mortars. The mortars usually stayed with the weapons platoon under the direction of the Coy Cmdr, the M-60s were almost invariably attached to the three rifle platoons, two to each platoon. The rocket launchers were also attached the rifle platoons, as and when required.

Pretty much based on what you had said before plus some other reading*, I drew up the attached:


*Must admit the Platoon ‘Guide’ seemed an oddity to me, not being familiar with the workings of the USMC. Is it one to drop ‘in combat’?
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Offline jasper

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #516 on: May 15, 2019, 11:03:06 PM »
What weapon do the first and second marine from the left have in pack 6 ?

Offline FreakyFenton

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #517 on: May 15, 2019, 11:42:25 PM »
@Jasper, looks like a Thompson with a stick magazine and a M60.

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #518 on: May 16, 2019, 05:35:20 AM »
@Silent Invader - would the squads be broken down into fireteams?

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #519 on: May 16, 2019, 06:48:31 AM »
According to the book they were. The Marines have been remarkably unchanged in terms of squad structure since the 1940s. Three fire teams. When they were M-14 armed one member of each team was provided with the modified M-14E1/ M-14A1 with the bipod and select fire capability to provide a base of fire for the team. The adoption of the M-16 made the distinction somewhat academic.

Like all such things, whether they actually operated as fire teams depended on squad numbers and tactical circumstance.

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #520 on: May 16, 2019, 06:50:32 AM »
@Silent Invader - would the squads be broken down into fireteams?

I don’t claim to know very much at all  :D

I’m learning too  ;)

Offline Munindk

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #521 on: May 16, 2019, 07:00:41 AM »
I found this page a not long ago while trying to talk myself out of starting a Hue collection:http://grunt-redux.atspace.eu/us_marines_forces1.htm

It matches Silent Invaders very helpful chart, right down to mentioning that 2 M60s were often attached to a rifle squad.

Are there plans for corpsman, mortar and rocket launcher packs?

Offline jasper

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #522 on: May 16, 2019, 07:27:54 AM »
Hi all, the empress m60's Come with an ammo belt. At one point it starts with a cylinder form.

I have not seen it in photo's. What is it for?

Offline mrcleh

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #523 on: May 16, 2019, 07:42:07 AM »
I wondered about that too. Apparently these are field modifications to ensure proper feeding and reduce stoppages.

Offline Juan

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Re: Empress - Hue 1968 - First Glimpse of the New Range
« Reply #524 on: May 16, 2019, 07:54:49 AM »
You can see them in a lot of pictures of the period. They are cans fixed to the MG, as mrcleh has said, to reduce stoppages.

A great touch from Empress/Paul Hicks. I was thinking about to make them, if they were not included with the miniatures.