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Thanks Levied Troop, I've played many a game of Lion Rampant and I don't feel the rules are suitable for a massed engagement. Have you had any experience of scaling up the rules?
I’ve doubled up the army size to 48 points without any rules variations or problems. But I quite like rules that don’t let a battle flow smoothly and build in frustration, and therefore LR’s Activation Test works for me. Some may find it too frustrating having most of the army stay still for a move
The wagon laager was represented with the following rules. The warwagons (Kingmaker) are deployed from the start and cannot be moved during the battle. Attackers get no attack/winning bonus against them and they cannot suffer a retreat result from combat. They do abide from both disorder and break results however. Their stamina losses cannot be rallied though so they can be slowly grinded down. Between them were barricades which give +1 to moral to troops defending them and deprives attackers of their attack bonus. The warwagons had clash/sustained 5, short/long 3/2 with crossbows or canon (range 24), moral +4 and 8 stamina. We had three wargaons in a half cirkle on the rebel baseline. They were not brigaded together, so had to be taken out separately.
Agreed. However, it's easy enough to work something similar into most (not all) rules if that's what you're looking for Kind Regards
I think the problem you will always have is that gamers are unlikely to make the same mistakes as the Imperialists especially regrading the composition of the armies. I read several articles on the period which appeared to be heavily biased on Hussite sources however you do have the impression of the Imperialists with a combination of poor morale and command, were almost fighting to the Hussite strengths. That is very difficult to recreate in a game, you would also have to make cavalry choices compulsory to avoid the Imperials fielding just lots of crossbows, maxed artillery with dismounted knight support that worked under WAB!
The Swordpoint rules for Wagons are very similar to WAB
there is the possibility that you could have the wiz bang effect.
Do you remember the old WAB rule 'arrogant pride' which force knights to charge, I think this would definitively cover the imperialists of this era.