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Offline Cubs

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Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« on: August 23, 2019, 09:54:04 PM »
For years I've always had a project in the back of my mind to build as accurately as possible a scale model of La Haye Sainte, but I'm having real problems finding any plans with accurate measurements. I thought I'd found one, only to discover it was from the Sharpe film and was a heavily amended set of buildings!

Does anyone know where a good set of plans could be found?
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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2019, 03:55:24 PM »
Hmmm … so I'm guessing no-one else can find any either. Seems strange since it's such an iconic set of buildings.

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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2019, 04:43:59 PM »
Sorry, mate. Never graduated beyond the old Airfix model. Had it for Christmas in 1977 and didn't I get some use out of it?

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Offline Hami

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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2019, 05:00:00 PM »
If you do find plans please let me know.

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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2019, 05:14:59 PM »
Sorry, mate. Never graduated beyond the old Airfix model. Had it for Christmas in 1977 and didn't I get some use out of it?

Same.

If you do find plans please let me know.

Yeah, will do. It's slow work trying to scribble down what I think is an accurate sketch, only to look at pictures and realise I've missed some small detail off (like the walls being completely the wrong height)!

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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2019, 05:44:44 PM »
Would the new archaeology project be the best start point? Can't remember what they are called perhaps "Waterloo Uncovered"? but the bunch who were working with veterans over the past few summers and did the big wargame in Glasgow recently. I think they were excavating the site of a field hospital this summer?

Otherwise perhaps the National Army Museum or the Armouries in Leeds, I think they may have archives to do with the Siborne diorama?
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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2019, 06:22:57 PM »
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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2019, 06:49:37 PM »
What about these?


Thanks for them, the map looks great as ground plans (and I will save them, they're bound to come in useful), but I was being lazy and hoping for 3d plans to show the dimensions of the walls and buildings. The building plans are from the site where the Sharpe set was designed and built, which confused the hell out of me for a while until I realised they'd changed it!

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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2019, 06:59:10 PM »
Incidentally, it was while looking for plans that I discovered exactly what the 'sandpit' defended by the 95th looked like. I confess, I was always a bit puzzled as to why a golf bunker made for such a formidable obstacle to the French assaulting the farm - couldn't they just ride some cavalry over it?

Then I saw the sandpit wasn't a pit, so much as a high sided earthworks like a miniature fort!

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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2019, 12:05:59 AM »
Sadly, I had a ton of photos of it, but they are on my douchebag ex-wife’s computer now...
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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2019, 02:31:32 PM »
I’m intrigued by this thread, looking forward to more..

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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2019, 02:39:59 PM »
Thanks for them, the map looks great as ground plans (and I will save them, they're bound to come in useful), but I was being lazy and hoping for 3d plans to show the dimensions of the walls and buildings. The building plans are from the site where the Sharpe set was designed and built, which confused the hell out of me for a while until I realised they'd changed it!

Does the top plan have the dimensions marked on it?

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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2019, 02:49:09 PM »
Does the top plan have the dimensions marked on it?

Yes, but it's not La Haye Sainte, it's a set design for the Sharpe film, which used a mythical set of buildings loosely based on La Haye Sainte.

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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2019, 02:50:25 PM »
Would the new archaeology project be the best start point?

Sorry, I missed this post. That's interesting, I'll have a peep at that, thanks.

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Re: Plans of La Haye Sainte?
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2019, 02:54:09 PM »
Sadly, I had a ton of photos of it, but they are on my douchebag ex-wife’s computer now...

I've literally drawn and redrawn the front wall and gate 4 times already! The images seem contradictory and although the modern farm is more or less the same, there have been some changes over the years. Conversely, contemporary sketches and paintings are often of questionable accuracy, but give a good general feel to the farm as it was.