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Offline SteveBurt

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2019, 03:58:55 PM »
My Napoleonic stuff is all either 1:600 or 1:2400. The 1:600 should be Ok with the 1:700 ships

Offline olicana

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2019, 04:11:32 PM »
Always fancied small scale actions with 1:300 myself. The hull of the brig is 110 mm; hull of the frigate is 145 mm long. Both by Langton. Beauties!




Offline von Lucky

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2019, 10:54:16 PM »
olicana - why am I not surprised with your choice in scale. All in or nothing!
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Offline fastolfrus

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2019, 08:23:48 AM »
The pre-release page shows generic 1st and 3rd rates as well as HMS Victory and L’Orient. I would like to see some ship sprees to see how much diversity you can have in things like figureheads.

On the prototype/pre-release sprues I saw there were different options for sterns and beaks, so should give a bit of variety.
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Offline Grumpy Gnome

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2019, 09:12:13 AM »
Ah, good! They are small models but I do like some diversity.

I found this site for other 1/700 ships already available.

https://navymodelsandbooks.co.uk/product-category/meridian-1700-scale-trafalgar-ships/
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Offline Sir_Theo

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2019, 10:06:37 AM »
The new Firelock Games Oak & Iron also looks interesting, and uses 1:600 scale ships. I see those rules are available fro free download, too.

I'm quite tempted by one of these but I'm holding fire until I see some reviews of both.

I'm leaning towards Oak and Iron because Blood and Plunder is such a brilliantly put together product.

Offline SteveBurt

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2019, 10:16:22 AM »
I'm quite tempted by one of these but I'm holding fire until I see some reviews of both.

I'm leaning towards Oak and Iron because Blood and Plunder is such a brilliantly put together product.

I have a feeling I will end up buying both!

Offline sespe

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2019, 07:29:50 PM »
My favorite is still Kiss Me, Hardy by TFL

Offline grant

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2019, 07:41:23 PM »
I’d be tempted by the rules only; I’d used Langton and GHQ for models. The 1:1200 scale would make for a better looking game possibly too - like playing WW2 with 1:285 instead of 28mm, ranges feel/look better.
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Offline Dags

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2019, 09:21:23 PM »
Saw the models yesterday.... 3 assembled placcy generic ships and 2 resin 1st Rate hulls; they are VERY pretty

Offline Grumpy Gnome

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2019, 06:09:24 AM »
I decided to wait until Crisis to see them in person.

Offline Grumpy Gnome

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2019, 09:08:22 AM »
An interesting interview with the designer... and a look at some of the models. Better looking in some ways but not sure about those stays and ratlines.

I love what he is doing to push things like the line for rigging and cotton wool for the broadsides.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eHUciglYbR8

EDIT: It is interesting what can be done with 1/1200 scale ships for Trafalgar with Fire as She Bears rules. I love the flashing broadsides and flag communication.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F-wb3Akqqz4
« Last Edit: September 13, 2019, 09:25:10 AM by Rick W. »

Offline Grumpy Gnome

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2019, 01:17:46 PM »
Some more good information....

“The range will also contain several 1st rate ships made in resin and metal, in fact, 3 for each of the British, French and Spanish navies: 2 Named ships and a third generic 1st rate. There will also be 3 resin and metal US Frigates and Super Frigates. You can expect to see the HMS Victory for the British and the L’Orient for the French followed sometime later by the Santissima Trinidad for the Spanish and the USS Constitution for the US. Then in 2020, we will also release the British HMS Royal Sovereign, the French L’Ocean, the Spanish Principe de Asturias and the USS Essex.
In time we plan to also release the other types of ships of the line (2nd rate, small 3rd rate, 4th rate and 6th rate), one or two models for each, and several smaller vessels.“

And some better pictures showing how the ships can be individualized.

https://www.warlordgames.com/black-seas-designer-notes-by-gabrio-tolentino/

And an excellent look at the rulebook from Wargames Illustrated. Looks like October will have plenty of plastic frigate and brig sprues floating about, if you will forgive the pun.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i8H8EFIM5iI

I have to say, the manual looks great to me. I may not wait until Crisis afterall.

Offline dartfrog

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2019, 06:07:55 PM »
I weakened and ordered a French fleet.

Offline Lysandros

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Re: Warlord Games Black Seas
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2019, 08:51:56 PM »
"Hello Sailor" by Walter Sweetly