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Author Topic: Battle of Molinella July 25, 1467?  (Read 1031 times)

Offline smirnoff

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Battle of Molinella July 25, 1467?
« on: September 08, 2019, 08:23:00 AM »
Gents
Anyone got any info/has done a refight of this battle, Wiki has:

"On the one side were 14,000 infantry and cavalry led by Bartolomeo Colleoni in theory fighting for Venice (but Colleoni had his personal agenda), in coalition with Borso d'Este, Marquis of Ferrara (represented by his half-brother Ercole I d'Este) and the Lords of Pesaro, Forlė and some renegade families of Florence.

On the other side was an army of 13,000 soldiers in the service of Florence, allied with Galeazzo Maria Sforza (ruler of the Duchy of Milan), King Ferdinand II of Aragon and Giovanni II Bentivoglio (ruler of Bologna). The army was led by a Federico da Montefeltro."

Educated guesses about more detailed ORBATs and info on the use of artillery and handguns gratefully accepted.

Offline Atheling

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Re: Battle of Molinella July 25, 1467?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2019, 08:38:39 AM »
Really interesting..... I'm currently trying to navigate my way around the warfare fought in Italy from 1440-1546, my chosen cut off date. As I'm certain you have noticed, there's not all that much written in great detail in English, which seems to make the subject even more compelling.

I wish you well on your search for information.

Kind Regards

Offline ArisK

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Re: Battle of Molinella July 25, 1467?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2019, 05:42:02 PM »
Maybe asking these fellows would yield some useful information?

http://www.coglia.org/wp/ildiorama/

http://passatore.blogspot.com/search/label/1467%20Molinella

Aris K.

Offline smirnoff

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Re: Battle of Molinella July 25, 1467?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2019, 09:58:50 PM »
Thanks ArisK

Offline Condottiere

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Re: Battle of Molinella July 25, 1467?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2019, 12:19:39 AM »
I'm skeptical about the claim on the Wiki:
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The battle is historically important because, for the first time in Italy, artillery and firearms were intensively used.


A source would be nice...

From the ever useful Condottieri di Ventura:

Legenda:
P prigioniero - prisoner
+ morto - killed
F ferito
-wounded



« Last Edit: September 26, 2019, 11:53:40 PM by Condottiere »

Offline smirnoff

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Re: Battle of Molinella July 25, 1467?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2019, 05:52:02 AM »
I'm skeptical about the claim on the Wiki:
A source would be nice...

Quite agree. Thanks for the link and the table