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Offline Ignatieff

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 8/11/2019
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2020, 10:17:30 AM »
Good work fella.  Love them all, especially the flags.  And never forget, you can never have too many Bolsheviks!
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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 8/11/2019
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2020, 05:05:32 AM »
Thanks guys for the comments, all the Bolsheviks are painted and just await basing, once that's done I'll do a group shot.

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2020, 11:15:18 PM »
Heres some of the Bolsheviks all done and dusted with a view objective markers.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2020, 11:26:01 PM by Kiwitoddy »

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2020, 11:39:24 PM »
Now for the infantry.

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2020, 11:48:08 PM »
And the last of them. That'll be it for a while till I get some Whites.

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2020, 03:47:18 AM »
Excellent!
But the black shirts were not used by the Reds))) Only the sailors had black greatcoats.
I am preparing for you information on the uniform of the Don Army - do not rush to paint the white figures))) There are several interesting points that will decorate the figures.

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2020, 05:02:22 AM »
yeah I appreciate the black-clad Chekists is ahistorical to say the least. Thank you for going to the trouble of preparing the information.


 Don't worry I'm not rushing to paint the Whites just yet...the joys of being in New Zealand.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2020, 05:21:59 AM by Kiwitoddy »

Offline Mike Blake

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2020, 10:30:08 AM »
It is difficult - I sympathise with Cuprum, who wants all the details right, having done all that research for us. But of course...they look sooo sexy in black that I have decided I must have some too!
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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2020, 11:25:54 AM »
Well, these are just toy soldiers - you can paint them in any color))) You can even paint the Napoleonic British infantry black - it's your right)))
By the way - during the Civil War, the black leather uniform was quite widespread among the Reds. In ordinary army units - and in the troops of the Cheka, inclusive. But these were not shirts - they were leather jackets. And there are suitable figures in this form - this is Trotsky's Red Guard from Brigade Games.
And you will have black units - and at the same time absolutely historical.
http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/Trotskys-Red-Guard-I-8_p_588.html



By the way, the soldiers of 51 divisions reds in 1920 had red shirts (gift from sponsors) - there would be quite interesting units in the game)))

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2020, 11:28:29 PM »
who sponsored the 51st Division? Was it a collection of local soviets etc? a unit of red shirted or indeed red leather clad men would definitely add a bit of colour to the table.

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2020, 12:03:21 AM »
The 51st Division is a well-known military unit of the Bolsheviks. He commanded the division - the future Soviet Marshal Blucher. The division fought on the Eastern Front against the Kolchak army and took an active part in its defeat. It was considered one of the best divisions in the Red Army.
In 1920, the division was transferred to the Southern Front. She took part in the famous battles at the Kakhovka bridgehead. Reflecting the advance of the white tanks - destroying and capturing 16 tanks (earlier the Reds often fled in terror from white tanks).
Later, the 51st division attacked the fortifications on Perekop in the forehead and broke into the Crimea.



For the defeat of Kolchak as a gift from the Moscow Council, the division received red tunics as a gift. In whites memoirs about the battles in the South, there are many references to the fact that the Bolshevik fighters were wearing red tunics.
In addition, the 51st Division is one of the few red military units that received a new greatcoat (green, with red stripes on the chest). Also in their division was a unique manner of wearing a large red star on a fur hat.



The red leather uniform is a myth. More precisely - red skin actually looks like this:



It is rather brown than red)))
« Last Edit: January 11, 2020, 12:07:59 AM by cuprum »

Offline Mike Blake

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2020, 02:51:24 PM »
Tx - great stuff.

Red shirts ie gymnasterkas (sp?) and 'red' leather jackets?

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2020, 04:53:24 PM »
51 divisions had red gymnasterkas.
According to some researchers, Trotsky’s escort had a “red” leather uniform (although, judging by the available photos, it was a regular black uniform).  This question is still open for me.

Offline Kiwitoddy

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2020, 05:26:41 AM »
fascinating stuff, you sir are a font of knowledge on this period. I did wonder how about the truth behind the red leather uniforms.

Offline Mike Blake

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Re: RCW from the bottom of the world. Updated 9/01/2020
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2020, 10:26:08 AM »
51 divisions had red gymnasterkas.
According to some researchers, Trotsky’s escort had a “red” leather uniform (although, judging by the available photos, it was a regular black uniform).  This question is still open for me.

Red or brown, it is still pretty amazing for an army uniform!