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Offline armchairgeneral

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WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« on: November 05, 2019, 09:53:38 PM »
About a year ago someone kindly posted a link to a WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation. I can't seem to find it now. Can anyone help me with this please?
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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2019, 05:33:11 PM »
Iam sure Cuprum can help.
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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2019, 06:33:46 PM »
Hopefully but last time someone else just posted a link.

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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2019, 01:59:54 PM »
This is a very broad question.
During the war, the staff of the battalion changed. In addition, a lot depended on various nuances: what kind of front it was, the presence of weapons, which contingent went to form a battalion (for example, militia units). There were also separate battalions (for example, shock battalions). It is difficult to answer your question unequivocally.

States of separate battalions in the military time (1908)

Officers:

Separate battalion commander - 1
Company commanders (captains) - 4

Administration of officers:
- adjutant of battalion 1
- treasurer 1
- weapons manager 1
- clerk of the court 1

Junior officers 7

Total Officers: 16

Classroom officials:

- Junior doctor 1
- Clerk of the economic 1
Total class officials: 2

Lower ranks:

Sergeants 4
Captainarmus 5
Non-commissioned officers:
 - seniors 16
- younger 56
Company drummers - 8
Bugler - 1
Corporal 80
Private 780
Total lower combat rank 950

Volunteers - 4

Non-military lower ranks:

Clerks:
- battalion 1
- senior 2
- junior 2

Paramedics:
- senior 1
- junior 1
- company 4

Infirmaries 2
Patient Overseer 1
Gunsmith 1
Tailor 1
Artisans 6

Total non-combatant lower ranks 22
Total lower ranks 976

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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2019, 06:50:26 PM »
Thanks for the very detailed response Cuprum. The organisation I had before mentioned a cavalry scout force of 60 men being part of a battalion?

Can you also tell me how cavalry regiments were organised in terms of how many troops and squads in a troop (or the equivalent) and their approximate strengths?

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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2019, 06:27:00 AM »
The cavalry scout squad is a regimental level.


The tactical and counting unit in the cavalry was a squadron consisting of approximately 150 horsemen, of which 6 were supposed to be officers. In the Cossack units, the squadron was called the "hundred", but there were almost no organizational differences. In the Russian army at the beginning of World War I there were 734 squadrons.

Six squadrons plus some auxiliary units made up the cavalry regiment. In total, the cavalry regiment was supposed to have 980 soldiers and non-commissioned officers, 36 officers, 4 doctors, 3 clerks, and 1062 horses.

The cavalry division, as a rule, consisted of four regiments (dragoon, ulan, hussar and cossack). In addition to the cavalry units, the division also included a 12-gun equestrian artillery "division"(*) , which included 14 officers and 455 soldiers. The cavalry division also relied on a machine gun team of 132 people with 8 machine guns and a small horse-sapper team.

Thus, the cavalry division was approximately equal in strength to the infantry regiment.

By the start of World War I, the Russian army had 24 cavalry divisions and 8 separate cavalry brigades. The mobilization plan did not involve the creation of new cavalry units. The number of cavalry was to grow due to the Cossack troops, which were supposed to additionally expose about 560 "hundreds".

In Russian, there is a difference in the concepts of “division” (“дивизия” and “дивизион”).
"Дивизия" is the generally accepted meaning of the word.
"Дивизион" is usually a unit of two artillery batteries.
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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2019, 09:11:40 AM »
Thanks very much for the detailed reply.

We’re cavalry squadrons organised down into further smaller units such as squads or troops?

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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2019, 09:31:27 AM »
The squadron is divided into 4 platoons. A platoon is divided into 2 units, having the name "zveno".

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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2019, 04:47:35 PM »
Okay thanks again Cuprum. You are a star!  :)

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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2019, 09:13:45 PM »
Fantastic detail and information.
Would the organisation be the same during the Russo - Japanese war?

Thanks
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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2019, 03:41:00 AM »
I am not ready to say right away. I will look at the weekend in my library what information I have on this issue.

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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2019, 02:33:13 PM »
States of the (Four Battalion) Infantry Regiment 1893-1908

Officers:

Regiment Commander Colonel 1
Battalion commanders, lieutenant colonels 4
Head of household, lieutenant colonel 1
Junior headquarters officer, lieutenant colonel 1
Company commanders: captains 16
Staff Captain 1

Administration of officers:

regimental adjutant 1
regimental treasurer 1
head of intelligence team 1
weapons manager 1
clerk of the regimental court 1
battalion adjutants 4

Junior officers 46

Total officers 79


Classroom officials:

Doctors:
senior 1
junior 4
Clerk on economic part 1
Priest 1

Total class officials 7


Lower ranks:

Sergeant major 17
Captainarmus 19
Non-commissioned officers:
seniors 69
junior 224

Musicians:
senior non-commissioned officers 1
junior non-commissioned officers 10
privates 24
Drummers:
regimental 1
company 32
Bugler Regimental 1

Corporal 320

Private 3120

Total lower combat rank 3838

Volunteers 16


Non-combatant lower ranks

Scribes:
regimental 1
seniors 4
junior 5
Paramedics:
senior 1
junior 4
pharmacy 1
company 16
veterinary 1
Infirmaries 6
Patient Overseer 1
Church 1
Gunsmith 1
Tailor Cutter 2
Artisans 18
Wagon drivers 105

Total non-combatant lower ranks 167

Total lower ranks in the regiment 4021


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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2019, 08:39:02 PM »
Super stuff,as always,Cuprum.
Thank you very much,yet against n.
Cheers,
Andy

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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2020, 10:15:00 PM »
Hello Cuprum, hello Armstrong 47

I'm entering the discussion because I'm also interested in the Imperial Russian army during the WW1.
In building my games I try to keep some russian wording to get the players more involved.

I use sevral romanized words to determine the quality of troops.
Could you please confirm if I'm right?

-Guards: Gvardiya
-Riflemen: Strelkam
-Recruits: Frontoviki
-Cossaks: Kazachiy
-Crew (gun or MG) Komanda
-Genie: Inzhener
-Runner, messenger: Gonyets
-Maxim MG: Maksim? Maxima? (I've seen both)

Cheers

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Re: WW1 Russian Infantry Battalion Organisation
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2020, 03:20:52 AM »
Hello!

Here you need to look at what level of command you are interested in. There may be differences.

All Guard Units of the Empire - Gvardiya
One soldier of the guard unit - Gvardeyets
Many soldiers of the guard unit - Gvardeytsy

One soldier of the rifle unit - Strelok
Many soldiers of the rifle unit - Strelki

One recruit (recruit) - Rekrut. Novobranets
Many recruits (recruits) - Rekruty. Novobrantsy

One veteran - Veteran, frontovik
Many veterans - Veterany, frontoviki

One Cossack - Kazak
Many Cossacks - Kazaki

One machine gun or artillery crew - Raschet
Machine gun unit (6 - 8 machine guns) - komanda
Artillery unit (4 - 6 guns) - batareya
The crew of an armored car, tank or armored train - Ekipazh

Engineer (always an officer) - Inzhener (saper)
His soldiers are sappers - sapery
One soldier - saper

Messenger - Vestovoy or posylnyy

The abbreviated name of the machine gun - Maksim
The full name of the machine gun - pulemet Maksima