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Author Topic: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.  (Read 4777 times)

Offline 6milPhil

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Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« on: December 31, 2019, 04:34:45 PM »
Vallejo to rename their products


YouTuber got a copyright take down and an account strike.

Offline tin shed gamer

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2019, 04:51:02 PM »
It's an unfortunate choice of name.
Sounds like some thing you'd need Imodium plus for.


Offline Skyven

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2019, 09:30:57 PM »
Interestingly, colourshift is a technical term used by artists to describe the darkening of colours as they dry. It implies a poor quality product because what you see as you mix and paint is going to end up darker once it has dryed/cured. Usually seen in student quality paint ranges verses artist/professional ranges, and one of the reasons for the price difference.

Offline Malebolgia

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2019, 10:00:49 PM »
I think this whole issue is being discussed way too much. Just a company who protects their trademark, like they should. Don't see why it gets so much attention.
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Offline 6milPhil

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2019, 10:12:53 PM »
Well there's only three replies and one is a bum joke.


Offline von Lucky

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2020, 12:19:12 AM »
I'm more impressed by Alex's signature.
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Offline Coenus Scaldingus

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2020, 09:35:08 AM »
If it is a purely Spanish Trademark (as must be the case, as the phrase "colo(u)r shift", or indeed "chameleon" as added in the video, are too common in English-speaking regions to be trademarked), can it even be enforced in this way? The name should be fair game outside of Spain, or not if the product is purely produced within Spain? No idea how this works, but this reminds me of GW trying to claim "halberd" was something unique they produced.  o_o When searching for "colour shift paint" or alternative spellings, Green Stuff World isn't even the first thing that comes up for any of them, but instead other arts and crafts brands.

It all seems a bit.. shifty.

I'm more impressed by Alex's signature.
lol

I also had no idea his name was, in fact, Vallejo.
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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2020, 12:13:14 PM »
Well there's only three replies and one is a bum joke.



Yeah, wasn't clear enough with my reply. It was discussed a lot on social media, like Facebook. So not only here :)

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2020, 12:19:55 PM »
Until I read this I'd never heard of the product.   lol

Offline Cait Sidhe

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2020, 02:20:22 PM »
Yeah, wasn't clear enough with my reply. It was discussed a lot on social media, like Facebook. So not only here :)

And it should be discussed here so everyone knows what a bunch of scumbags GSW are. Inflicting a copyright strike on a youtuber puts them 1/3 of the way toward having their channel deleted and income stream cut off. Her video is also in no way violating copyright so it's an abuse of the system which should be illegal but youtube doesn't give a shit.

As people have already mentioned Colo(u)r Shift is a term which has existed well before they decided they own it, in fact the trademark is owned by another company in the US, FolkArt, and they only own the trademark in Spain.

They also have form in stealing other people's ideas for their tools which is the main reason I don't ever buy from them despite their nice selection of sculpting and modelling stuff.  :-[ 

Offline 6milPhil

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2020, 03:25:54 PM »
If it is a purely Spanish Trademark (as must be the case, as the phrase "colo(u)r shift", or indeed "chameleon" as added in the video, are too common in English-speaking regions to be trademarked), can it even be enforced in this way? The name should be fair game outside of Spain, or not if the product is purely produced within Spain?

I think the point is Vallejo is produced in Spain, where GSW are based. It's a matter between the two rather than a third party who was unaware of the actuality. GSW possibly always had the option for a takedown, but it's more of a final step than a first I think.

Yeah, wasn't clear enough with my reply. It was discussed a lot on social media, like Facebook. So not only here :)

Oh okay. When I posted I'd only seen it on reddit. More of a FYI post than a call to pitchforks and flaming torches on my part I assure you.

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2020, 07:09:16 AM »
Not everyone uses social media. I left Facebook when I realized too much power had been concentrated into the hands of too few people through what has become something of a monopoly.

The topic seems legitimate news to be discussed here.

I hope GSW moves to have the strike removed from Sword & Steele since there appears to be no malice evidenced in her actions.
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Offline 6milPhil

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2020, 11:07:29 AM »
Strike has been removed and GSW have issued an apology...

Offline arloid

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2020, 05:23:18 PM »
Strike has been removed and GSW have issued an apology...
Not saying it isn't a step in the right direction but it clearly shows what goes on inside the mind of the company,
that or some random employer not knowing how youtube, reviews and the hobby works was set in charge of take downs...

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Re: Green Stuff World trademarks "Colorshift"... chaos ensues.
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2020, 05:28:24 PM »
Until I read this I'd never heard of the product.   lol

same here....
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