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Rich H
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Operation Jubilee - Dieppe Raid and Churchills Now with Dingo!
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January 28, 2020, 10:29:20 AM »
I'm planning on going to the Bolt Action Welsh Open in September. I usually start a mad project. Last time it was a LCT(A) which got out of hand pretty quickly.
This time... I'm looking at Dieppe tank force.
So Mark 1(2pdr/3"), Mark 2(2pdr), Mark 3(6pdr) plus special equipment (Oke flamethrowers/bobbins) and wading kits.
No one makes all of this lot (mad Bob makes the Mk1/2 and wading kits but not the Mk3 turret) so I figured I'd have a go. This will also lead onto more funnies, ARC, Great Eastern and so on.
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Eclaireur
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 28, 2020, 10:53:02 AM »
FAB
your projects are one of the main reasons I check in on this forum!
EC
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gamer Mac
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 28, 2020, 11:16:33 AM »
Will follow with interest
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Rich H
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 28, 2020, 11:31:30 AM »
It's got tracks now, not sure I'm happy with them yet...
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tin shed gamer
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 28, 2020, 12:18:56 PM »
Well colour me interested.
just to throwing a pebbles to start an avalanche.
Why not have a shed track version with just a bare rear cog and a length of track on the ground.(it's always the image of tanks at Dieppe that springs to mind.)
Since it's a foregone conclusion that this one's going to go they same way as the last two minor side projects. When you've reached that point(I reckon after you've started printing and that cunning plan sneaks in your bonce) let me know what you need and I'll make some time for it.
Mark.
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Rich H
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 28, 2020, 12:32:33 PM »
cool. I'm planning on re-cycling the LCT as there is what looks like a Mk5 LCT on the beach. I do need some LCAs though...
De-tracked versions will of course be needed as you say pretty much every photo of Dieppe shows it.
Not quite sure how to do it yet - I'll probably make the track units magnetized and have a de-tracked per tank
The wading kits will probably be magnetized too, the rear trunking was ditiched but quite a few seem to have retained the extended exhaust pipes.
Might even make a 'deep wading marker' with jsut the trunking and exhausts showing
I learned that actually only 2 Churchills were lost to shingle apparently, I thought it was far more, all the others made it off the beach to some extent but returned to cover the evacuation.
Sample Bolt Action list:
Regular Mk3 with command and radio net.
Regular Mk3
Regular Mk2 Oke (If tey let me take it)
Regualr Mk1
Regular Universal carrier (Transport for the Observer)
Regular Naval Artillery observer (Justified in my mind as it's a naval assault!)
Regular AT rifle (Just using up the points!)
In a tank game it'll be thematic but totally awful - which I guess is kind of appropriate!
2x 6pdrs, 2x2pdrs and a 3"howitzer plus an AT rifle.
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Rich H
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 29, 2020, 11:01:33 AM »
I hate cast turrets!
Tracks are done, rear deck is done, the turret is a hot mess... goign to haev to start again for the third time...
In other news I've also now got another bit to add: M1 heavy tractor.
They weren't landed at Dieppe due to heavy fire but they were in the TLCs for helping things off the beach. So I'm going to make one and take it as a recovery vehicle.
They are good fun in tank war, 15 points and can mess with your opponent quite nicely
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Rich H
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 29, 2020, 01:09:27 PM »
For the infantry game the force looks pretty bland TBH, all regular troops
2nd Lt + Batman
Naval Artillery Observer*
10 man Infantry section (SMG, LMG)
10 man Infantry section (SMG, LMG)
10 man Infantry section (SMG, LMG)
10 man Engineer section (SMG, Flamethrower**)
2" Mortar
Boys AT Rifle
Universal Carrier
Churchill MkIII
Reasonably accurate full strength platoon plus attached/nearby naval observer, UC and Churchill MkIII
*I'm not a huge fan of the naval observer rules as I think they are far too powerful but at least in this force it's in context!
**I'm not sure there were infantry flamethrowers on Dieppe, but I imagine there would be given some of the tanks had flamethrowers! Alternative for the same points is strap the flamethrower to the Churchill to make it a Mk2 special (rules out soon apparently)
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tin shed gamer
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 29, 2020, 01:44:17 PM »
I know it didn't go well with flame tanks .One broke the ramp and sank. Two debussed without the ramp and knackered their fuel tendors with the subsequent drop.
As for universal carriers I might know someone who's made a few.
Including an armoured observers version.
(Just send me a pic of what you had in mind for an Observer and I'll fit one in.)
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Rich H
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 29, 2020, 02:04:53 PM »
Cheers
I'll haev a ponder and a search.
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Rich H
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 29, 2020, 10:20:52 PM »
In the meantime... turret is still not quite right but I'll print it see if it looks OK.
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Blackwolf
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 29, 2020, 10:40:26 PM »
Wonderful! Churchills are my favourite tank,watching this closely
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Rich H
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 29, 2020, 10:59:19 PM »
Just before bed time - some wading kit!
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Ultravanillasmurf
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 30, 2020, 07:58:00 AM »
Amazing.
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Rich H
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Re: Looks like another accident - Churchills.
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January 30, 2020, 08:25:00 AM »
It seems to have lost the ventilator cover...
It's hard work finding pics of the roof of this thing, loods of pics of the Mk3 onwards but not many of the MK1 or 2 from above. Particularly the turret roof.
I think it's just the front of the hull now... but I might tweak the turret some more...
Then I need the welded Mk3 turret... but I think I saw a pic of a cast turret which I thought came in on the Mk4.... hmm rivet coutning needed....
Once they ae done then I'll start on the Mk1 with the hull howitzer, the Oke flamethrower and the bobbins.
I'm going to make the detracked version with the tracks piled up front and rear.
It means it'll be stronger (and more versatile) than a long run of track laid out.
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