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Offline Burnin Coal

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Re: Plastic Persians - Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2020, 11:42:10 PM »
  :o  :-* :-* they look even better in those photos....really great brushwork...a slightly daunting prospect as painting projects go...but will preorder some anyway as it’s good to know what I’ll be doing in my spare time for the rest of the year  lol
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Offline Easy E

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Re: Plastic Persians - Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #61 on: January 30, 2020, 07:38:27 PM »
Hmmmm..... looks interesting. They look good.
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Offline Tonhel

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Re: Plastic Persians - Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #62 on: January 31, 2020, 08:18:35 AM »
Looks good, are they already available in Europe?

Offline lord marcus

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Re: Plastic Persians - Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2020, 06:47:56 AM »
Looks good, are they already available in Europe?

No, they were delayed due to lunar New year. We will be shipping/releasing the Persians in March.

If you have any other questions I encourage use of the Wargames Atlantic news thread I have set up in the commercial section. I am happy to help

Offline Jjonas

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Re: Plastic Persians - Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #64 on: February 14, 2020, 02:12:44 AM »
Here is a set of photos of one sprue of the new Wargames Atlantic plastic Persians made into a sort of detachable vignette – figures on pre order.

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Offline Jjonas

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Re: Plastic Persians - Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2020, 05:42:19 PM »
All the photos I have posted of the Wargames Atlantic Persians - plus more - are now available to see at http://www.ancientbattles.com/

http://www.ancientbattles.com/Wargames_Atlantic_Persians_28mm/Wargames_Atlantic_Persians_28mm.html


Offline wmyers

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Re: Plastic Persians - Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2020, 06:43:04 PM »
Thank you for the write up!

Looks like one will have to get to know some Persian unit styles and dress to really take advantage of the historical research put into this set. 

I hope Wargames Atlantic includes this information in their set (either as an insert or on the box)!

Offline Grumpy Gnome

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Re: Plastic Persians - Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #67 on: February 25, 2020, 01:41:22 PM »
Good write up. I have some Wargames Factory sprues to get around to, I will have to add some of these Wargames Atlantic to that project.
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Offline Jjonas

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Re: Plastic Persians - Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #68 on: February 25, 2020, 07:35:14 PM »
Thank you for the write up!

Looks like one will have to get to know some Persian unit styles and dress to really take advantage of the historical research put into this set. 

I hope Wargames Atlantic includes this information in their set (either as an insert or on the box)!

You are welcome.

Persians are well covered on the web as almost all images have been spread hither and yon. It isn't really possible to determine very specific details about Persian uniforms, Greek vases help, and forensic research into relief art also reveals much info. We know they often wore very decorated outfits. The robes as seen on the famous tiles were ceremonial and actual fighting gear may have been less ornate. There are sources that reveal that groups were uniformed by their regional commanders, and that certain stripes and checkered patterns were indicative of specific Persian tribes and ethnic groups.
We also know that certain head dress styles would denote different elements. Over the years there is more clarity. In the wayback past translations often muddied things- Herodotus' description of the Cissians as wearing "turbans" has messed up depictions of Achaemenid Persians for hundred of years. Only now do we have books like Duncan Head's The Achaemenid Persian Army to give guidance-  but sadly that work is out of print. Better research reveals the Cissian head gear as a knotted head band.
There is a lot more info available about how the various peoples of the empire had their own look and national equipment, than specific unit detail.

The Osprey by Nick Sekunda offers up a very detailed opinion that the various units of 1000 Immortals had their own unit colors- hence a blue unit, purple , red, and yellow, brown, etc.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_Eiwce13X738/SHnOrQCiKRI/AAAAAAAADNw/g45CB8mUG08/s1600/BrinkmannStatue.jpg


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Offline wmyers

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Re: Plastic Persians - Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #69 on: February 26, 2020, 12:49:22 AM »
The link to the archer; isn’t that supposed to be s Greek?

Perhaps a goddess if I remember?

Apparently a Trojan archer:

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/ancient-sculpture-color-polychromy

I’m not sure I’m willing to paint my 28mm figures to that level ... (we will pretend I am able at that scale).

Offline Emir of Askaristan

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Re: Plastic Persians - Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #70 on: February 26, 2020, 06:39:49 AM »
I'd seem some of these statues or similar ones before. Might be worth getting hold of that catalogue though, even if just for inspiration for main colours and borders.

Looks like just about anything goes   :o

Offline Jjonas

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Re: Plastic Persians - Wargames Atlantic
« Reply #71 on: February 26, 2020, 06:35:12 PM »
The link to the archer; isn’t that supposed to be s Greek?

Perhaps a goddess if I remember?

Apparently a Trojan archer:

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/ancient-sculpture-color-polychromy

I’m not sure I’m willing to paint my 28mm figures to that level ... (we will pretend I am able at that scale).

Yes- that is based on the Greeks view of what  Trojan archer would look like hundreds of years later, so they are really depicting Anatolian styles of their day.

Yes- that is way too complicated to paint in 28mm but was that variety is somewhat at the discretion of the collector, there are plenty of resources, one just has to figure out if they like uniformity or varied outfits.