Opponents for Hoplites?

[armchairgeneral]

I am considering fielding an opponent for my hoplites. Apart from other hoplites and the Persians, just wondered who else there is to consider?

[aphillathehun]

Well, they eventually get outclassed by the pike armed phalanx.  If you do early pikes, you can eventually do Alexander's army with mercenary hoplites....

[Plynkes]

Thracians would be the first to come to mind, then Macedonians. There was a Gallic invasion of Greece sometime  (3rd Century BC?), though I'm not sure they would have faced classical hoplites.

LoL, my spellchecker wants to replace "Hoplites" with "shoplifters," this amuses me no end for some reason, not quite as good as the time it tried to replace "Mahdists" with "Methodists,"  though.

[Plynkes]

Oh, and going back to my Xenophon, the "Ten Thousand" had all sorts of running battles with various "uncivilized" sorts in Anatolia (Carduchians? Paphlagonians? I don't really remember). Not sure what figures you'd use for these types of guys, though. Wild hill barbarians is how the Greeks would have seen them.

[Jjonas]

Carthage (Sicilian Greeks). Southern Italian Greeks vs. Rome, Samnites, Oscans. Galatians (The Greeks had not converted to thureophoroi as yet). Thrace. Bactrian Frontier. Gauls (Massilia was a Greek colony). Libyans (The Cyrenians were a Greek colony). Illyrians. Macedonians, Macedonian Early Successors.
For starters.

[armchairgeneral]

Thanks for the replies chaps. Thrace might be an option 

[Dervel]

Meshwesh is a free online army list for Triumph!....

http://meshwesh.wgcwar.com/home

Even if you don't play Triumph!, you can go to the lists, type in hoplite, it will list the various hoplite armies, click on one and it gives allies and enemies.

[armchairgeneral]

Meshwesh is a free online army list for Triumph!....

http://meshwesh.wgcwar.com/home

Even if you don't play Triumph!, you can go to the lists, type in hoplite, it will list the various hoplite armies, click on one and it gives allies and enemies.

Thank you. Indeed that is very handy 

[OmarR]

Iberians, gauls, pontic peoples

[mc_deli]

Meshwesh is a free online army list for Triumph!....

http://meshwesh.wgcwar.com/home

Even if you don't play Triumph!, you can go to the lists, type in hoplite, it will list the various hoplite armies, click on one and it gives allies and enemies.

That's super, nice one

[Cat]

There were major Greek colonies in southern Italy, Marseille, and around the Black Sea: so Hoplites get to fight just about everybody in the known world.

Etruscans, Latins, Campanians, etc.; Skythians, Illyrians, Lydians, etc.  Not in the historic record, but I'ld bet 10 drachmai that the Massiliots fought the Iberians.

[FierceKitty]

I know you pointedly excluded them, but just wanted to remark that a few Greek on Greek actions splitting my army in half have proved more fun than anticipated.

[armchairgeneral]

I know you pointedly excluded them, but just wanted to remark that a few Greek on Greek actions splitting my army in half have proved more fun than anticipated.

Thanks FK. Yes I should have enough hoplites for that and will try some games to see how they go though both armies with be rather similar.

[Easy E]

Of course, the three biggest ones I can think of are Macedonians, Persians, and Carthaginians. 

If you want some more info on the following look here:

Thracians- https://bloodandspectacles.blogspot.com/2020/02/men-of-bronze-thracian-army-list.html

Carthaginians- https://bloodandspectacles.blogspot.com/2019/12/men-of-bronze-greeks-vs-carthage.html

Pre-Reform Macedonains- https://bloodandspectacles.blogspot.com/2019/12/men-of-bronze-pre-reform-macedonia.html

Thessaly- https://bloodandspectacles.blogspot.com/2019/11/men-of-bronze-thessaly-army-list.html



Of course, there are also various "barbarians" and what have you.     

[tabletopwargamer]

Google ancient Greece. You'll get all the opponents and a history lesson.