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Offline tumeveumevla

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French uniform in gallipoli?
« on: August 02, 2020, 11:45:54 AM »
Hello,
I have French people to paint but I would like to know the color of their Gallipolli uniforms.
These are woodbine designs, which for me are the prettiest.

Sebastien.

Offline huevans

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Re: French uniform in gallipoli?
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2020, 06:51:05 PM »
Bleu horizon

Offline duhamel

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Re: French uniform in gallipoli?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2020, 09:00:54 PM »
“Le courage consiste à avoir peur mais à continuer tout de même.”

\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" The courage consists in being afraid but in continuing all the same. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"

Offline pacofeanor

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Re: French uniform in gallipoli?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2020, 07:42:43 AM »
hello !
1915 is a difficult year for knowing exactly which uniforms were worn, when and on wich campaign theater :

At the start of the campaign :

-175 and 176 régiments d'infanterie de ligne wore metropolitan dresses, light "electric"  blue over-pants with bleu horizon (BH)  "capote"(overcoat) and BH kepi, black leather gears.
-régiment de marche d'Afrique :
                           -zouave bataillons : velvet or kaki zouaves trousers, with kaki "mustard colour" jacket, chechia with sand colour cover.dark blue puttees
                           -foreign legion bataillon : dark blue "capote" (patern 1877 the one of the start of the war) with sand colour coton pants and pith helmet, dark blue puttees.
-régiments mixte coloniaux :
                           - "white" batalions : sand colour pants and jackets and pith helmets
                           - senegalees batallions : dark blue puttees, capotes and trousers.  dark blue cover on chechias.

with the summer and great heat , every body was dressed with light coton suits, sand colour ,  except line infantry wich stay in BH but with pith helmets.

Artillery and other services, wore the same as "coloniaux" , except two bataillons of zouaves "territoriaux" (ie territorial units made of older soldiers) wich wore velvet trousers with old zouave's gilet and bolero , and chechias. They kept prisonners, and served as workers or camp/services troops in Gallipoli and Moudros island.

best regards
paco
« Last Edit: August 18, 2020, 07:48:39 AM by pacofeanor »

Offline tumeveumevla

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Re: French uniform in gallipoli?
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2020, 07:35:04 PM »
thank you all,

Super paco pour les infos

Sebastien

Offline Atheling

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Re: French uniform in gallipoli?
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2020, 10:00:50 PM »
Hyperlinked from the Gripping Beast/Woodbine site:








Offline pacofeanor

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Re: French uniform in gallipoli?
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2020, 07:51:29 AM »
thank you all,

Super paco pour les infos

Sebastien
[/quote

You are welcome my friend ! As my great grand father was involved in these campaign, i'm always looking for good photos showing french troops in Gallipoli, and particularly Général GOUREAUD.

regards
paco]

Offline Stéphane

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Re: French uniform in gallipoli?
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2020, 11:21:42 PM »
Normaly, no french troops on the eastern front wear bleu horizon uniform. Before 1915's winter, metropolitan troops wear exactly the same uniform of the begining of the war with red troosers.
Colonial troops wear high colorerd uniform from armée d'arfrique.
After 1915's winter, all french troops on the eastern front wear Kaki-Moustard uniform and adrian helmet.
Les Vicissitudes Ludiques (french text, but colored picutres)

Offline pacofeanor

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Re: French uniform in gallipoli?
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2020, 09:52:01 AM »
Normaly, no french troops on the eastern front wear bleu horizon uniform. Before 1915's winter, metropolitan troops wear exactly the same uniform of the begining of the war with red troosers.
Colonial troops wear high colorred uniform from armée d'arfrique.
After 1915's winter, all french troops on the eastern front wear Kaki-Moustard uniform and adrian helmet.

French troops in Dardanelles (and Macedoine/ Salonique  after dardanelles)  wore the same dress than in europe, with a little late. Colonial and metropolitan troops were dressed with dark blue dresses mixed with new BH dresses. The troops sent to Gallipoli were new recrutes (classe 1915) from depots from all regiments (one bataillon from 105 de ligne / Riom for exemple) and dresses with new equipments.

 for exemple :


One of the "white" colonial regiment in Gallipoli (image from National australian army museum) BH coat with old fashion dark blue trousers with red piping


Very famous photo summer 1915 in Gallipoli  the man wear entire bleu horizon dress:


well known photo again : all soldiers wear BH dress with velvet trouser for the second, and an ancient "patte d'épaule à rouleau" (shouder patch) in dark blue. All equipment are the ancient black patern (the brown one start to be deal mid 1915) source : IWM


for colonial "white" troops and senegaleses :
White guys are in BH coat with old fashion dark blue trousers with red piping as in métropole

senegaleses are in old blue fashion

senegalese in dark blue 1914 coat :


Zouaves :

territorial zouaves (front right) with old fshion zouave bolero with speecial cartridge box, the trouser seems to be the new paterne in khaki "moutarde" they are  keeping turkish prisoners.



Zouave bataillon in "moutarde" kaki dress



Territorial units and of campaign (winter1915) keeping prisoners : new dress for the winter1915 : BH coat with khkaki pants and jacket under the coat, like in France.



best regards
Paco

« Last Edit: August 31, 2020, 08:31:21 AM by pacofeanor »

 

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