flexible skirmish ruleset with fantastical / horror elements

[pixelgeek]

thanks for the comparison there, Fred. Certainly leaning towards FFoL.

But I would hope to pick-up DAM over time.

I have both and I prefer DAM as a horror game since the the story and game system have been developed in tandem. It gives a better in-game experience.

I have all of the FFoL books. Even the PA expansion which I will probably never use but I like being able to poach ideas from it.

Which is better depends on what you want to do. If you want to use your own minis and put together a horror game then I think FFoL is a better solution. You can mix and match whatever you want.

[Bloggard]

yes, Pixelgeek, that seems to be the consensus, and why I'm leaning towards FFoL.

What you describe as the advantage of DAM, might also be seen as tieing you into the official range of figures (which are superb of course). I appreciate you don't have to use them, but it would seem a bit 'missing the point' not to, I suspect.

Problem with the cost of all this: the FFoL's I think worked out about £20 after the dollar to pounds conversions, the DAM's would be between £30 - £50 depending on how / where bought, and the Cthulhu books another £50-60 ... phew ... !

*on which score I've just noticed that I paid considerably more by buying the pdfs from Vault / drivethru than if I'd bought directly from the Wiley website (although maybe you can't use his site commercially from outside the US?) ...

[Elk101]

I've ordered straight from Wiley Games with no issues before. I have playtested a few Wiley Games rulesets and supplements now and I find making what you want easy enough and actually quite good fun as you can personalise your interpretation of something.

[Bloggard]

ok, good to know Elk101.

love the cover for 'wasteland' and am interested in 'bigger battles' ...

[fred]

Regarding DAM, the supplements are independent of each other, so if you like the theme of one, then it doesn't rely on the other. I think you would largely work them out without the core rules.

And there is certainly no need to use the official figures - but they are some very nice figures - my first two DAM gangs used generic figures, it was only for the Coven that I got the official figures mainly to get the 3 witches. If you look at some of the gangs and then at the Artisan (IIRC) figures you can see which ranges they have come from.

[Malamute]

Give us a bit more information on your setting? Is it Old West setting with horror and fantasy creatures?

FFoL has a fantasy set coming soon. I’ll leave the Baron to elaborate, but the Beastiary section may well be of use.

[Bloggard]

yes Malamute, just that: Old west with horror / cthulhu etc.

FFoL core with the horror supplement looks like it'll do fine as a foundation.

[Elk101]

If you put up some examples of the creatures you want to use  I'll show you what I mean.

[Bloggard]

interesting @Fred, because as things stand I have just the last supplement on the way from amazon, although should be plumping for the main rulebook shortly.

@Elk101 don't have enough of a b/ground to supply yet!
what I'm seeing in the horror supplement covers the usual suspects, and would be fine to start with ...

[Malamute]

Thinking about it a lot of the mutation traits  in  FFoL Wasteland Warriors the post apoc supplement might be of use too.

[BaronVonJ]

If the prices are more on Wargames Vault it’s because they take a considerable chunk of the money. I only put games there because they gave a larger audience. Buy directly from me.

[Bloggard]

Thinking about it a lot of the mutation traits  in  FFoL Wasteland Warriors the post apoc supplement might be of use too.

indeed, and can't resist that cover 

wish 'reloaded' (good tho' it is on it's own terms) had that vintage comic book look too.

@Baron - will do if I go for further pdfs.

[BaronVonJ]

Reloaded was the first book and written some years ago. The book will be getting a facelift and some retooling to bring it in line with the more current books, but it is a ways off.

[Bloggard]

right - be great to have the full set with that styling.

tbh, I think you might consider putting the inside into colour for the pdfs?

presumably the masterfiles are (illustrations-wise)?

Mind you , I can see you might want to be consistent with the print copies

[BaronVonJ]

Consistent and I'd have to raise the price.