Author Topic: Sub Machine Gun Question (Read 12270 times)

Argonor · « **on:** November 27, 2009, 12:46:48 PM »

I have seen pictures of the German MP38 and MP40, but if my mind is not playing tricks on me (it might), I have seen a similar weapon with the magazine pointing out to the side instead of down.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about, or is it just one of those misconceptions brought about by some low budget movie or perhaps a comic book way back in my childhood?

I'm not much into WWII when it comes to weapons and other hardware, but I suspect some of you in here to have a very thorough knowledge of such matters...

Hammers · « **Reply #1 on:** November 27, 2009, 12:55:25 PM »

I think you are thinking of the classic Bergman MP18...

...,which was one of the first subs used in any scale. Developed for storm troopers to use in trench raiding. Banned by the Treaty of Versaille, copied widely and used all over the world during the inter war years.

Plynkes · « **Reply #2 on:** November 27, 2009, 01:01:28 PM »

MP32 and MP35 as well...

Lanchester (Royal Navy SMG from WWII)...

Hammers · « **Reply #3 on:** November 27, 2009, 01:03:11 PM »

So they *do* have the magazine to the right and left both... I've been wondering about that.

Plynkes · « **Reply #4 on:** November 27, 2009, 01:07:31 PM »

They don't really look like the classic MP40 though, do they? So maybe he was thinking of something else?

Rather similar to the wooden stock version of the series, though. But you don't often see them...

Argonor · « **Reply #5 on:** November 27, 2009, 01:19:09 PM »

It may very well have been the Bergmann that I vaguely recall. I must admit that the main feature I remeber was the magazine - I can't remember if the handle was 'rifle'-shaped or a pistol handle.

I'm not much of a weapons afficionado, can barely distinguish between automated and non-automated weapons (and with modern handguns not even that...)

Thanks for the answers, now I know my brain is not completely gone, yet....

Plynkes · « **Reply #6 on:** November 27, 2009, 01:23:38 PM »

British Sten Gun?

Classic gun of the French Resistance and the Tommies? (Maybe not as fancy as the MP40, but at least you can easily fire it lying down!)

Plynkes · « **Reply #7 on:** November 27, 2009, 01:31:33 PM »

Sterling? British post-war SMG (and also starred as the Imperial Stormtrooper blaster in Star Wars)...

Phased out after poor performance against Daleks and Cybermen.

Edit: Star Wars version...

Argonor · « **Reply #8 on:** November 27, 2009, 01:45:34 PM »

I'm pretty sure that it was typical WWII Germans I saw with the gun... It may have been late WWI ones, though - the style of the helmet makes them easy to confuse a worn down memory like mine...

There's no doubt that I've also seen the Sten Gun used in some movies (and, knowing Hollywood, I may een have seen Germans armed with it).

Hammers · « **Reply #9 on:** November 27, 2009, 01:54:00 PM »

Dylan, are these all from you private collection?

Better keep an eye on our friend here, fellows, lest he should snap.

Doomhippie · « **Reply #10 on:** November 27, 2009, 01:58:41 PM »

I know there was one, however I have no idea of the name. It was only used in small numbers mainly with security personal. Gee, I used to jnow it about 28 years ago when these things did matter to me...

Silent Invader · « **Reply #11 on:** November 27, 2009, 02:24:58 PM »

The MkII STEN (and I think MkIII) could also be fitted with a pistol grip, instead of the more usual skeleton butt.

Calimero · « **Reply #12 on:** November 27, 2009, 02:29:30 PM »

Maybe it was a MP34?

former user · « **Reply #13 on:** November 27, 2009, 03:03:15 PM »

Maybe
there was a Bergman prototype made by Schmeisser that quite resembled the MP36 and later models, but with the magazine well to the side.
Don't know if it was called MP 34 or not, but it was not taken into large production because of the eypensive machined parts. Don't know about production numbers.

No pictures however.

How about the SMG issued to paratroopers? That one had definetly the mag to the side.

Sterling Moose · « **Reply #14 on:** November 27, 2009, 03:08:06 PM »

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How about the SMG issued to paratroopers? That one had definetly the mag to the side.

That would be the FG42 - more of an LMG than an SMG.

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