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Offline Gluteus Maximus

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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2009, 08:55:48 AM »
The Foundry Thor figure?  :o

How on earth have you shoe-horned him into a VSF army?  8) ;D

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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2009, 05:03:02 PM »
The Foundry Thor figure?  :o

How on earth have you shoe-horned him into a VSF army?  8) ;D

He is King Olav the 1st, a slightly mad royal with delusions of grandeur. I am almost done painting him. Now that I am finally a supproting member, I am planning on resurrecting my Norway thread, and posting pictures of the newest additions.
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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2009, 06:44:15 PM »
may I join in the general theme and ask if anyone can tell me how aeronefs stay in the air?
I know about the "flywood thing" and understand it if they look like wooden boats, but how about ironclads etc???



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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2009, 07:06:24 PM »
If you're talking Space 1889 then the ironclads use Liftwood too. A wooden flyer is not made entirely of liftwood. Liftwood is too rare and precious to waste making entire ships from it, besides which, it isn't necessary. Whatever your ship is made of it has sets of liftwood slats on the underside (like the slats on a blind), the angle of the slats is constantly adjusted by the trimsman during flight to keep the thing in the air. Liftwood, which comes from a tree that grows in the savage Martian highlands, has peculiar properties which cause "lift", hence the name.

If we're talking Aeronef, I don't remember what rationale is used to justify flight of such machines in that game. Sorry.
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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2009, 08:21:16 PM »
thx
... even more questions raised

I thought it was the same thing...
So, technically speaking, liftwood extends it's properties to the whole ship?

this is not bickering about physics, I try to understand the principle :)

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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2009, 08:28:39 PM »
It's not a matter of extending properties so much (except in the same general sense that the engine and wheels on a car work together to extend the property of "moving forward" to the whole vehicle) more that a certain amount of liftwood generates enough lift to carry a certain mass of ship. Bigger ship needs more liftwood, I guess. Hell, I dunno. I quit college before finishing my course on made-up physics.  lol

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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2009, 08:38:51 PM »
 lol lol
this would be indeed a weird idea...
make a sticky thread about made up weird VSF physics.... ;)

Offline Ray Rivers

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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2009, 08:54:46 PM »
Here's how my aerodynamics teacher explained it...

You have "lifty's" and you have "dragy's".  And when you have more "lifty's" than "dragy's"... the thing flies.

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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2009, 09:05:56 PM »
I thought aeronefs flew due to suspension of disbelief?


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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2009, 11:23:04 PM »
that's indeed a very good explanation
I suggest to introduce "suspention of disbelief"  as the main fuel for alternative physics energy  ;)

how about SoD?
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Offline Gluteus Maximus

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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2009, 11:20:07 AM »
I thought aeronefs flew due to suspension of disbelief?



But I think it's the liftwood that provides that suspension  ;)

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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2009, 11:22:22 AM »
He is King Olav the 1st, a slightly mad royal with delusions of grandeur. I am almost done painting him. Now that I am finally a supproting member, I am planning on resurrecting my Norway thread, and posting pictures of the newest additions.

Brilliant!  8)

What an excellent idea and perfect for introducing otherwise unsuitable figures. We should all have more lunatics in our games  :D

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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2009, 06:39:03 PM »
may I join in the general theme and ask if anyone can tell me how aeronefs stay in the air?
I know about the "flywood thing" and understand it if they look like wooden boats, but how about ironclads etc???

There are 4 main pseudo-sciences that I know of for lighter than air travel.

1) Liftwood. In Space 1889, there is a Martian wood that repels gravity, and forms forests around one of the Moons, if I remember correctly. The thought is, you use enough of this wood to offset the weight of your vessel, as it is proprtional in its ability to repel gravity.

2) Cavorite. From HG Wells 'The First Men in the Moon', Cavorite is named for its creator, and is a metal substance that cancels gravitational forces to one side of it, and is blocked by lead. So, if you point uncovered cavorite towards the largest source of gravity, it will then be affected by all of the other gravititional forces in other directions, and move that way.

3) Martian Beams. THe John Carter books reveal that Mars uses some form of beam technology to push against the ground, like a hovercar does with air.

4) Antigravity Screws. Aeronef (the game) reveals that Americans have found a way to affect gravitational fields the same way we can affect water, and thus form a screw technology that allows them to push Aeronefs through atmosphere much the same way a submarine does in water.

These are the main options I have always seen used. Hope that helps.

The Norwegians, by the way, use every bit of technology they can steal, and some they can develop form the examples in front of them.  :D

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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2009, 07:49:50 PM »
thx for this very comprehensive info

I wondered if and how I was to represent this technology for the aeronefs I intend to build, and am relieved there is no need to  ;)

I still find the antigravity screw concept a bit "shady", but nevermind:
screws it is

and of course SoB  ;)

Offline Gluteus Maximus

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Re: Victorian Sci-Fi
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2009, 08:33:54 PM »
thx for this very comprehensive info

I wondered if and how I was to represent this technology for the aeronefs I intend to build, and am relieved there is no need to  ;)

I still find the antigravity screw concept a bit "shady", but nevermind:
screws it is

and of course SoB  ;)

By George, I think he's got it!  :D  ;)  8)

 

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