Author Topic: what are the Cape Frontier wars? (Read 9338 times)

commissarmoody · « **on:** February 16, 2010, 08:40:21 AM »

Hello ever one, I just got done reading my new issuie of WGI
and it happend to have a great artical about the Cape fronter wars and I was wondering if there were any intresting reads and or links/websites about it.

I was also looking at the 1st Corp's frontier war range and they look pretty kool, has any one snaged a few of them and has any one tryed out there Mex-Amrican war range stuff and was wondering how they were.

Gluteus Maximus · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2010, 08:46:27 AM »

Wiki has a decent entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xhosa_Wars

The there's Encyclopedia Britannica:

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/93594/Cape-Frontier-Wars

The Victoria Wars forum:

http://www.victorianwars.com/viewforum.php?f=6

And YahooGroups CapeWars:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/CapeWars/

Google "Cape Wars" "Frontier Wars" "Xhosa" or "Kaffir Wars" etc and you should get some more hits. Again, search Amazon or AbeBooks etc and you hould get some book ideas

THE CID · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2010, 08:53:34 AM »

Hi I have a book simply called Frontiers, it is a complete history of the xhosa people and the cape wars. These wars mostly involved British soldiers trying to flush out xhosa warriors from dense forests. The xhosa used guerilla tactics and had smaller numbers than the british in the field.
I have also had some of the first corp figures, they are slightly smaller than Perry miniatures, possibly the size of the old Foundry Sikh war range. The British officers are really nice figs and paint up well. Hope this helps Craig.

commissarmoody · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2010, 08:55:19 AM »

yes it dose and thanks both of you.

Gluteus Maximus · « **Reply #4 on:** February 16, 2010, 10:05:21 AM »

The Osprey "Queen Victoria's Enemies - Southern Africa" has a section on the wars, with some useful illustrations of the Xhosa.

If you join the YahooGroup, Ian Knight is a member and is a very helpful and friendly chap. He, or one of the others, will certainly be able to set you in the right direction.

carlos marighela · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2010, 12:50:39 PM »

"what are the Cap Frontier wars?"
These were the millinery wars at the very cutting edge of the fashion scene.

Smokeyrone · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2010, 01:22:43 PM »

Quote from: carlos marighela on February 16, 2010, 12:50:39 PM

"what are the Cap Frontier wars?"
These were the millinery wars at the very cutting edge of the fashion scene.

yes, the campaign took place on Chicago's South side, and was essentially a battle over the newest Nike NBA logo caps, as I recall. The "posers" wore their caps on backwards, the "brothers" wore their caps with the bill on the side. Lot's of colorful uniforms, with fancy gold and silver piping and decor.

Gluteus stole my suggestion (or beat me to it) so that's all I have.

commissarmoody · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2010, 07:30:34 PM »

Cap I have no idea what you are talking about

sepoy1857 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2010, 09:30:46 PM »

Quote from: Smokeyrone on February 16, 2010, 01:22:43 PM

yes, the campaign took place on Chicago's South side, and was essentially a battle over the newest Nike NBA logo caps, as I recall. The "posers" wore their caps on backwards, the "brothers" wore their caps with the bill on the side. Lot's of colorful uniforms, with fancy gold and silver piping and decor.

LOL too funny "looking like a foo with their pants on the ground"... :-|

But seriously...Curtey's/1st Corps figures are nice (I have some of the Mexican War Figs). They are somewhat bigger/beefier than the old Perry sculpted Foundry Sikh Wars or Indian Mutiny, so not sure how 1st corps Cape Wars figs would work with Foundry.
Blaze Away Miniatures has Cape/Xhosa figs as well. Just one pack of Xhosa...but they look good.
http://www.blazeaway.com.au/XCC1.JPG
http://www.blazeaway.com.au/Colonial.htm
BAL Codes are ideal opponents for Cape Wars Xhosa! http://www.blazeaway.com.au/British%20&%20French%20Legions.htm

Best of Luck with your project.

carlos marighela · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2010, 09:46:00 PM »

Blaze Away are the ex-Cannonfodder range. And yes IIRC Greg Blake did a small range of Xhosa etc.

A word of warning. Whilst some of Greg's sculpts were quite nice, chiefly the Anglo-Irish War range, some of them are well....... I think the popular term these days is 'characterful'. They also tend to bounce around all over the place in terms of scale.

commissarmoody · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2010, 04:34:22 PM »

Thanks to you all, this will be another long term project. for me sadly, school an money being an issue. But the plan is to Use the Mexican War figs for a fictinal US colony, off the east coast of africa losely based off of Liberia.
that way the figs can serve for my MEX-War, Early west fronter wars, Zorro adventers, Tex-war of ind, Fight for Zion "war with mormans", early south amrican and caribion intervitons and filiabusters also trying to carve out there own empier in the stilly wild west.
I was thinking that lots of the Cape british forces would make great rivles in the african adventer and at the same time some of the less standerd figers such as the Cape mounted rifles would make great troops/dragoons for just about any contry of that era and of course the boers are pretty much standerd for fronter people at that time anyways.
what do you guys think?

v_lazy_dragon · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2010, 05:27:56 PM »

That sounds good to me Commissarmoody! I must admitt my early west stuff will be doing a similar sort of line, although without the african connection. I had been toying with using the Boers as settlers, and I'm glad someone else has had the same idea

I may have to steal those thoughts on the Cape Rifles though!

commissarmoody · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2010, 11:11:32 PM »

that should work, I actaly was reading up on the Texas army and they were "supposed" to be armed with pistol, rifle, sword and dubble-barrled shotguns.

ARKOUDAKI · « **Reply #13 on:** February 20, 2010, 11:57:42 PM »

commissarmoody

If you are after the 1st Corp Kaffir War range then you can get them at 'Brookhurst Hobbies' in Cali, which is where I got mine. They also have the US-Mex war. Rob Baker did all the sculpting and these are great looking figures, very stylish! Rob's Kaffir figures were really good

Hope this info helps.

commissarmoody · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:05:50 AM »

Thanks Arkoudaki!

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