What colour for my Ruritanian Riflemen?

[Spong]

No problem mate.

I got the pic through a google image search and it was originally British Victorian soldiers - I thought it was nice as it showed both with full kit and without. Incidentally while I was playing with the sliders I noticed that a number of shades already mentioned in the thread look very nice for the coat especially with the black trousers: chocolate, plum and a sort of aqua hue all look very good and I can throw some examples up here if you like.

[Red Orc]

That would be smashing. As I've said earlier, eventually I'm planning on having several different regiments with different uniforms, and one of the schemes I'm thinking of is a sort of plumy colour. Purple, I call it, but what shade it is exactly I'm not sure.

In short, yeah, any alternative schemes greatly appreciated, thanks!

[former user]

coming to think of it...
when I do my passenger train, I wanted to set it in a generic country.
Would You allow me set it in Ruritania, Eastern Provinces?
The livery would be dark blueish green, the blazon a lion in golden wreath.
Does Ruritania happen to have an Anarchist underground Movement?

[Spong]

Plum Purple:


Chocolate Brown:


Khaki:


Moss Green:


Aqua:

[former user]

 
plum purple is ceratinly something for  Vatican troops 
I like the moss green

[Red Orc]

coming to think of it...
when I do my passenger train, I wanted to set it in a generic country.
Would You allow me set it in Ruritania, Eastern Provinces?
The livery would be dark blueish green, the blazon a lion in golden wreath.
Does Ruritania happen to have an Anarchist underground Movement?

Sounds like a great idea, show us some pics as you're doing your trains!

I'm sure Ruritania would have an Anarchist movement, possibly more than one. One more inspired by the Russian Anarchists, and maybe active in the country districts, another perhaps influenced by the Italians, among the miners and metalworkers (or whatever heavy industry Ruritania has). And at least 2 socialist parties also, one that believed in parliamentary politics and another of a more insurrectionary bent. I reckon that's how it would go, what do you think?

@ Spong: those are great! I'm definitely coming round to purple, and that 'aqua' looks quite spiffing too. I really like your 'meh, I can mess about in Photoshop'-type army painter, nice one!

[former user]

Sounds like a great idea, show us some pics as you're doing your trains!

I'm sure Ruritania would have an Anarchist movement, possibly more than one. One more inspired by the Russian Anarchists, and maybe active in the country districts, another perhaps influenced by the Italians, among the miners and metalworkers (or whatever heavy industry Ruritania has). And at least 2 socialist parties also, one that believed in parliamentary politics and another of a more insurrectionary bent. I reckon that's how it would go, what do you think?

well, it fits the time
my freight trains will have their debut in our first RCW game next friday, and the next thing I expect to finish is my passanger train, that is already 90% done.
The interiors will be postponed however, since I am yet searchin for furniture for the luxury class.
Ruritania it is!
so, here You have Your Ruritanian railway,

[Red Orc]

That looks great former user! Excellent livery colour for the coaches, nice lion device too. That's for the Eastern Ruritanian Railway you say? Perhaps then the lion is a traditional heraldic device in Eastern Ruritania. I know that in Britain, the 'wyvern' - a kind of dragon with no front legs - ended up as part of the Midland Railway badge because that railway came through Leicester, where the wyvern is part of the town's coat of arms. If I do any Eastern Ruritanian rifle regiments, I'll make sure they have green jackets and a lion on their banner.

[fastolfrus]

I would go with the yellow for regular infantry.

Infantry and cavalry often wear different colours so you could choose something different for them, also heavy and light units might be different.

When I was at school one of the napoleonic players fielded a Ruritanian army, yellow coated infantry with either blue, black, or dark green trousers. Mostly wearing a distinctive hat (might have been cavalry style helmets - memory is a bit sketchy this was 38 years ago). They got nicknamed the Rumanian Folk Dancers by most other players, but had a good track record in games at club.

[Red Orc]

I'm thinking that 'line' infantry will have yellow jackets. Maybe a bit darker and more reddy than the colour Spong illustrated, but not too far off that.

Purple for cavalry seems like a good idea, as purple dye was expensive; if only noblemen could afford purple cloth, only noblemen could join a cavalry regiment that made you buy your own uniform. Therefore, being a cavalryman would be a sign that you were from a rich and noble family...

Then the East Ruritanian Foresters (let's say) might wear that lovely green that former user is planning for his trains.

Once I have my copy of 'Prisoner...' I'll make notes on other units or heraldic stuff, bearing in mind the Ruritanian Rose device and Princess Flavia's Guard already mentioned.

Hmm, this is coming along nicely.

[fastolfrus]

"it is usually considered to be located between Saxony and Bohemia; the author indicates that the capital city, Strelsau, lies on the railway line between Dresden and Prague"

The lion might be taken as a reference to Dresden - it's on their coat of arms, or Bohemia - they have a lion too.

You could opt for militia/local defence regiments to wear a different colour to line regiments, and possibly an older style of uniform so they don't look quite so faxhionable. Then you could field moss green jackets, possible in kepi (Austrian style) as your militia forces. It would give you more flexibility on figures that you could use. Alternately, quite a few traditional folk costumes feature a broad brimmed hat, so maybe your militia might use confederate figures ?
Then you could keep kepis for light infantry or even police units.

For guards units, if you want to avoid red so they don't look British, why not try a dark burgundy coat with green trousers - might fit in with your rose theme (and probably better than pink with brown trousers).

There used to be a website with flags of fictional countries, including Ruritania, but no idea where to find it at present. Probably disappeared into the ethernet.

[fastolfrus]

Still no idea where I saw the old site, but I did find a sheet of "Ruritanian" flags here :

http://fauxtoys.com/tvag/346-Funny-Little-Flags.html

Although they go for the symbol of a two-headed eagle.
(Coincidentally, Grand Fenwick has a two headed eagle on a red field, but hopelessly outdated military kit)

[Red Orc]

The exact location of Ruritania is yet to be fixed in our time-stream... I have rather more info about where Atlantis is!

Like the state that contains Sprinfield in the Simpsons (which borders Maine, Kentucky, Idaho and New Mexico), Ruritania perhaps shares borders with Germany, Austria-Hungary, Russia and the Ottoman Empire. Perhaps. I'm not even sure that former user's 'Eastern Ruritania' is contiguous with the rest of Ruritania. It might be.

As to the fictional flags, there is this - http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/FLAGS/fic.html - and it's great, but no Ruritanian flag sadly.

[former user]

Ruritania would not have sea access by any means?

I only plan a naval force with air arm, no other military, and the railway personnel will be uniformed, in this green, with perry miniatures from the naval contingent british legion carlist wars, perry range.
I also have some copplestone and perry british naval brigade, currently white

but I am thinking now of giving them this sea blue green for jackets.
Maybe the Zep troopers might become ruritanian too

it is a nice idea

maybe we could make a LAF-own Ruritania as a common project for Pulp/VSF??

[argsilverson]

Ruritania would not have sea access by any means?

I only plan a naval force with air arm, no other military, and the railway personnel will be uniformed, in this green, with perry miniatures from the naval contingent british legion carlist wars, perry range.
I also have some copplestone and perry british naval brigade, currently white

but I am thinking now of giving them this sea blue green for jackets.
Maybe the Zep troopers might become ruritanian too

it is a nice idea

maybe we could make a LAF-own Ruritania as a common project for Pulp/VSF??

1.- Not quite necessary to have sea access. A large lake and a river is enough. Think that Hungary has a naval contingent in lake Balaton, plus a small (but well equipped) river naval force. BTW this is the only naval force, I know, that has not blue or white uniforms. They are of light brown in colour! (OK there are lots of khaki navy uniforms like USnavy but  they also have white and blue uniforms).
2.- Very good idea for common project. I agree. let's work about the rules.
3.- I am just reading a translation of Rupert of Hentzau. I found another passage for some uniform. Gold and Green for King's hunters (chasseur). Of course might be interpreted as belonging to the King's household.