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Offline Mors

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2010, 11:08:32 PM »
Awesome, the paint job and the miniatures. Better get my salute list back out again!

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Offline Smokeyrone

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2010, 03:03:22 AM »
Holy crap!  That is a perfect likeness, even that facial expression!

Well done.  Great painting.

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Offline cram

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2010, 11:06:27 AM »
Excellent looking models, and top rate paint job!!  :-*  :-*

Offline oxiana

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2010, 11:09:03 AM »
Brilliant model, lovely paint job.

It seems almost churlish to point out out that the malingering drunk version of Hooky in the film was about a million miles away from what the real Hook was like...

Offline Lowtardog

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2010, 12:32:21 PM »
He is cracking :-* I wish they had been around when I was collecting zulus :? dont think I could face doing them again.

Alright we need suitable quotes from the film for this chap......



Offline Trooper

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2010, 02:22:15 PM »
Brilliant model, lovely paint job.

It seems almost churlish to point out out that the malingering drunk version of Hooky in the film was about a million miles away from what the real Hook was like...

It is indeed a lovely piece of work, but as oxiana points out, the film portrayal was in no way a representation of the real Henry Hook. Back in the late '70s I worked with a descendant of the great man, and if you wanted to upset him, just mention the film Zulu. Henry Hook was a Gloucester man, not a cockney spiv, and was a soldier with a good conduct history, as well as being god fearing and a good family man. At the conclusion of the battle when Lord Chelmsford arrived, Bromhead asked Hook to give his account of the fight in the hospital. Hook being a very modest man, gave his account and played down his part in the action. However they learnt what he had done from the others involved and that is why he got the VC.   

But that is the movies for you, Likewise, Bromhead and Chard were not the characters protrayed in the movie. Bromhead was a subaltern of 33, and slightly deaf, and Chard was an under achieving Engineer. Both were promoted to Major after the battle, but that was the extent of their career. Neither was the 24th a Welsh regiment, having a much greater proportion of Englishmen in it, and being named the 2nd Warwickshire Regiment. It was not designated as the South Wales Borderers until much later. Otto Witt the drunken preacher in the film version, did not flee the mission station with his daughter after a fit of religious indignation, but slunk away before the fighting really got going, and later went to the UK where he did a lecture tour portraying himself as a hero of the battle. But thats Hollywood for you.

I could continue to pick holes in the "historical accuracy" of the film, but I do love the movie despite these anachronisms.
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Offline Paul Hicks

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2010, 03:33:45 PM »
Do not fear historical ones are next!.

Offline timg

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2010, 04:09:37 PM »
Do not fear historical ones are next!.

Hurrah! Take it wont have Bromhead with a speaking trumpet going 'eh?' then  lol. Lovely figures and look forward to the historical ones next.

Offline Traveler Man

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2010, 04:20:49 PM »
A splendid figure of the movie Hook!  :-*

And yes, all honor to the real Henry Hook, from all accounts a decent chap in every way.
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Offline Smokeyrone

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2010, 05:30:14 PM »
A splendid figure of the movie Hook!  :-*

And yes, all honor to the real Henry Hook, from all accounts a decent chap in every way.

Of course. 


Offline Mark251054

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2010, 05:51:50 PM »

Hook being a very modest man, gave his account and played down his part in the action. However they learnt what he had done from the others involved and that is why he got the VC.   


I assume that his modesty is why he recorded himself in the 1881 Census as Henry (V.C.) Hook - unless his boss recorded him as such.

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« Last Edit: March 29, 2010, 06:06:59 PM by Mark251054 »

Offline rob_alderman

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2010, 06:26:55 PM »
Surely that would have been from military records and thus shown all his awards/medals?

I'd have to ask my dad, he's a geneologist and frequently uses the available Census'.

Offline Gluteus Maximus

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2010, 07:50:24 PM »
Do not fear historical ones are next!.

Yay! Chard with a big bushy beard!  :D

Offline timg

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2010, 09:14:29 PM »
Looking sorrowfully at his wrecked wagon and single bottle of beer. lol

Offline Galloping Major

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Re: Private Henry Hook
« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2010, 10:29:59 PM »
Superb paint job Keith.  8)

Great figure set of the Zulu film characters. Got to be in every military history buff's top 20 films, it's certainly in mine. Like the Hook model very much - straight out of the film - even though the Pvt Hook portrayed in the film was very different from the real one  ;)


 

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