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Author Topic: Iraquois help  (Read 6278 times)

Offline itchy

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Iraquois help
« on: May 03, 2010, 10:38:04 AM »
Just got out some of my FIW conquest minitures stuff that I never got round to painting , so I can finish these off and get some of the new Galloping Major bits. In the pack Iraquois warriors A, 2 of the figures are wearing a type of pointed head dress , what were these made from and what colours would they be,hope you can help.

Offline Shikari Sahib

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Re: Iraquois help
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2010, 10:56:15 AM »
is called Ghustowhe , Gustowah,
is a conial cap made from hard leather or cedar bark, could be without feathers.
painted normally in colour brown with adorned quillworks of spiritual motifs.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/various%20pics/Natives%20Americans/Iroquoispeople.jpg

hope of help
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Offline Aaron

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Re: Iraquois help
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2010, 01:00:32 PM »
There are a few nice color examples here. http://www.wanuken.com/war.html

Offline Shikari Sahib

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Re: Iraquois help
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2010, 01:13:27 PM »
There are a few nice color examples here. http://www.wanuken.com/war.html

yes Aaron, Michael G. is a great man, his works wonderful.
but probably the headress we are talking about are not the same as in the photos of Wanuken website.
Piero

Offline Shikari Sahib

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Re: Iraquois help
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2010, 01:31:46 PM »
The traditional Iroquois gustoweh is the basis for many Native headdresses in the Eastern Woodlands. Many variations are worn in Eastern Nations today. It consists of an ash splint frame, covered in cloth, leather,, with a beaded wampum band is affixed to the perimeter. The distinguishing feature of the gustoweh is the cluster of split feathers on the crown and the free-spinning upright feather, placed in a carved birch socket. Seneca have one upright feather, while Mohawk have three. Cayuga have one feather off to the side. Onondaga have one upright feather in addition to the side feather, while Oneida have two upright in addition to the one to the side. The Tuscarora have no upright or side feathers, but still have the cluster of split feathers

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/pieropredator/various%20pics/Natives%20Americans/gustowehlg.jpg

Piero

Offline Aaron

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Re: Iraquois help
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010, 01:50:11 PM »
My apologies, from the washed-out picture on the Conquest site I couldn't tell what exactly was being worn. I thought those headdresses were only included in one of the Delaware packs.

That said, I don't think the breakdown of feathers you list was so strictly adhered to at the time, but rather a modern over-simplification.

Offline Shikari Sahib

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Re: Iraquois help
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2010, 02:26:30 PM »

That said, I don't think the breakdown of feathers you list was so strictly adhered to at the time, but rather a modern over-simplification.
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Correct AAron  ;),
in older time it was plain, just the conical hat with some quillworks.

Piero

Offline itchy

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Re: Iraquois help
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 02:56:35 PM »
Cheers guys thanks for help and the great links as well  :)

Offline duhamel

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Re: Iraquois help
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2010, 08:18:51 AM »




 ;) ;)
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Offline Galloping Major

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Re: Iraquois help
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2010, 08:53:40 AM »
Great picture Duhamel  8)

Going by the Typography I'd say produced any time from 1890s onwards.

I'd generally agree with what Piero said.




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