2nd ACW Vehicle Wish List

[F.U.B.A.R]

 One of the biggest hurtles it seems to the players of the 2nd American civil war is finding suitable U.S. vehicles for the period. There were several in service by 1935 that were I think are very cool looking.

The M1 Combat Car
http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/combatcarm1.html
A tankette really but I love the sound of "Combat Car"

M2 Scout Car
http://www.warwheels.net/M2scoutcarINDEX.html
That hot rod roof line really appeals to me! I really want one of these for my Goverment Forces. I would love to see one of these in 1/56th

T3 Christie Tank
http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/tanks_Christie_T3.aspx

M2 Light Tank
http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/lighttankm2.html
The twin turreted A2 version is higher on my list than the single turreted A1 version, but I would pony up the cash for both. 

[commissarmoody]

Agreed, I would love to see a few of thouse in production, Right now I am using  a few FT-17s and Vickers 6-ton exports.

[Skrapwelder]

I'm working on an M1 Scout car for my own use currently. If it comes out at all decent it may be made available.

[SBMiniaturesGuy]

How about a Jeffery Armored Car?

http://www.warwheels.net/Jeffery1915ACNo1INDEX.html

[ushistoryprof]

http://www.warwheels.net/Jeffery1915ACNo1INDEX.html

What a great site, lots of ideas from the American 1930's a/c attempts.

[F.U.B.A.R]

I'm working on an M1 Scout car for my own use currently. If it comes out at all decent it may be made available.

Well if does let me know I would fork over the dough for one, maybe even two

Agreed, I would love to see a few of thouse in production, Right now I am using  a few FT-17s and Vickers 6-ton exports.

Yeah I have to settle for FT-17s to fill in for the 6-ton Model 1917, another idea I have is taken from the Ford 3-ton. I use the Henry Ford Brigade as one of my units in ACW2, Ford made a 3-ton tank in the later stages of WW1http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/UnitedStates/lighttanks/LightTanks.html and I found a paper model of it that could be scaled for use http://www.papermodelsonline.com/fordtank.html

[carlos marighela]

Agreed, I would love to see a few of thouse in production, Right now I am using  a few FT-17s and Vickers 6-ton exports.

Well actually you are better off using these. The US had a large stockpile of M1917s and about 100 MkVIII Liberty/ Internationals. Most of the surviving runners ended up as training tanks in Canada during WW2 and probably as range targets some time thereafter. They were sold to the Canadians as scrap to maintain neutrality but they were all apparently still runners. Actually the US commenced a small scale upgrade to these in the early thirties but funds didn't permit much more. Worth pointimg out that a platoon's worth of M1917 deployed to China in support of US Marines in 1929.

Wonderful looking as they are the Christie tanks never saw serial production in the US. If you are desperate for one they are easy enough to scratchbuild or simply utilise  Company B's BT-2 for the later models, they were almost exact copies (licensed ones at that).

Now what you really want but you don't know it yet, is a Diston Tank. Something Tobi should really contemplate.

[carlos marighela]

Disston Tank:

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/afghanistan/disston-afganistan.jpg

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/afghanistan/Disston2.GIF

Good competition for the Bob Semple and Odessa as the most wonderful of all the unlovely tanks of its era.

[commissarmoody]

Are there any companys makeing MkVIII Liberty/ Internationals? If not any one makeing any thing that would be a good proxy?

[F.U.B.A.R]

Are there any companys makeing MkVIII Liberty/ Internationals? If not any one makeing any thing that would be a good proxy?

Brigade Games has MK IVs and V that could stand in proxy for the MK VIIIhttp://www.brigadegames.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=BGAHSL&Category_Code=BGHMW

[Doc Twilight]

Some very good ideas here, gents...

Duely noted by interested individuals;)

As far as I know, the Ford 3 Ton is still going to be done by Tobi for us at some point.

-Doc

[carlos marighela]

Hmmm personally I'd say the MKIV and Mk V are pretty unlike a MkVIII but opinions differ and these are readily available. Actually there is a proxy MkVIII available and according to photos seen on this site pretty much in scale. It's the promotional toy tank for Indiana Jones (whatever the one with Sean Connery was called). Search the archives and you'll see comparison pics. Needs some modification, at least the removal of the turret but otherwise it's a reasonable approximation of the general shape. How available these things are or what they cost I've no idea but 5 minutes on E bay should answer that. Maybe it's collectable which mean you have to put it on the table in it's original box, wrapped in bubblewrap and with the lights off less sunshine or careless handling knocks the equivalent of the average home loan deposit off it's price.

[commissarmoody]

Some very good ideas here, gents...

Duely noted by interested individuals;)

As far as I know, the Ford 3 Ton is still going to be done by Tobi for us at some point.

-Doc

Come on Tobi get on with them 3 tons! 
I will have to see if I can find some of the indiana jones tanks then, i like the Mk V idea but if I had them i would just use them as refurbished museum peaces.

[F.U.B.A.R]

Come on Tobi get on with them 3 tons! 

I second that motion!

[ushistoryprof]

Wonderful looking as they are the Christie tanks never saw serial production in the US. If you are desperate for one they are easy enough to scratchbuild or simply utilise  Company B's BT-2 for the later models, they were almost exact copies (licensed ones at that).

Another thing to remember is that these vehicles with limited runs were only limited due to a lack of real need-ie no real wars going on.  2nd ACW gives us the war, so many of these would have been put into mass production.  Check out this sub-site for styles of US AFV's by design year:

http://www.warwheels.net/USAacChronologyHAUGH.html

Many would have gone into production with the needs of a real war.  Gives you lots of potential to choose from as the need for AFV's would have put even the more questionable designs into production and front line service as stop gaps.  Changing history is what's so fun about playing these what if style games.