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Offline YPU

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Re: Any Advice for Water Dioramas?
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2010, 09:59:44 PM »

Now to figure out how to create a Chinese Type 94 submarine for 28mm miniatures...

Thanks everyone!

Make sure most of it is under water? In my opinion most subs look rather plain if done right and quite ugly if done wrong, so making the diorama more about the action and the movement rather then the mini as much might help in my opinion.
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Re: Any Advice for Water Dioramas?
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2010, 10:13:49 PM »
Make sure most of it is under water? In my opinion most subs look rather plain if done right and quite ugly if done wrong, so making the diorama more about the action and the movement rather then the mini as much might help in my opinion.

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Re: Any Advice for Water Dioramas?
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2010, 10:15:27 PM »
Make sure most of it is under water? In my opinion most subs look rather plain if done right and quite ugly if done wrong, so making the diorama more about the action and the movement rather then the mini as much might help in my opinion.

Indeed! I'm only doing to nose to make it a manageable size and it will be positioned during an "emergency blow" so the angle will be pretty extreme. Most of the surface will be covered with foam so it's more about sculpting that realistically.
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Re: Any Advice for Water Dioramas?
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2010, 10:17:54 PM »
Like that!!!



Yup! Here's the reference shot I'm going with


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Re: Any Advice for Water Dioramas?
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2010, 01:56:56 PM »
I always had a problem colouring clear resin... that thread linked earlier mentions using Tamiya paints to colour it. Anyone tried this before?

If its a resin then you cant use any water-based paint in it - it casuses an unwanted chemical reaction.
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Re: Any Advice for Water Dioramas?
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2010, 02:02:54 PM »
Pictures

Jup! that exactly what I was talking about, to borrow an explanation from Sir Pratchet,
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Re: Any Advice for Water Dioramas?
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2010, 09:15:36 AM »
If its a resin then you cant use any water-based paint in it - it casuses an unwanted chemical reaction.

Huh? All the tutorials I read said you can use inks in Envirotex Lite and Solid Water (the stuff you guys sell). In fact, did so last weekend without a problem. Got me some nice and idyllic blue water 8). I used P3 Blue Ink.
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Offline AndrewBeasley

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Re: Any Advice for Water Dioramas?
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2010, 01:55:47 PM »
This may be a little too late but I have just come across:

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/tnt1/001-100/TNT067_making-water_Geraths/tnt067.htm



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Re: Any Advice for Water Dioramas?
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2010, 05:31:17 PM »
Huh? All the tutorials I read said you can use inks in Envirotex Lite and Solid Water (the stuff you guys sell). In fact, did so last weekend without a problem. Got me some nice and idyllic blue water 8). I used P3 Blue Ink.

envirotex lite is a polyurethane varnish  ;)  (cheaper equivalent is Yacht-Varnish btw, "polyurethane yacht varnish")


Water reacts with resins to a rather nasty mess, although there is a varying degree of this. Any resin-caster will tell you never to mix the two together, however you can get away with colouring using water-based inks sometimes, other times it will go fizzy on you. it's down to relative volumes i guess....

but to be safe, don't do it - or do it and run the risk, I admit that I tend to do so with small amounts, but if its a big commercial piece of scenery i use a resin-dye instead.

ateotd i guess its one of those "things to be aware of that might go wrong" rather than an absolute rule... like spraying Testors dullcote over decals.

 

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