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Author Topic: Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?  (Read 4289 times)

Offline thejammedgatling

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Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?
« on: April 07, 2011, 03:49:29 PM »
As the title says... could the new Empress Maori wars Brits have another use for the Indian Mutiny? Any major differences?

I'm not too much of a purist and would love to have a dual use for the minis. Advice much appreciated!

Offline Yankeepedlar01

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Re: Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 04:57:49 PM »
Well, I plan to get the rocket anyway, I like odd things like that in my Colonial games!
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Offline Juan

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Re: Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 08:32:44 PM »
Same uniforms and same weapons... They are perfect for both conflicts (that is my idea).

Offline mdomino

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Re: Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 10:23:16 PM »
What is the name of the headgear on the Empress Brit rankers? Did they wear that in the Mutiny? Not that it makes too much difference, as Mutiny was very nonstandard. Those are beautiful figs, and certainly the officer with spyglass would be perfect.
Mike D

Offline Arthur

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Re: Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2011, 02:01:42 AM »
The headgear was simply known as the forage cap. It came in two shapes : the earlier broad-crowned type shown on the Empress figures and the narrower 'pork-pie' variety introduced in 1834. By the time of the Mutiny, the latter would have become universal and it is highly doubtful the former was still around, even if you accept the fact that old stocks were still being used long after the  item had been discontinued. During the Mutiny, the forage cap would also have been worn with either a puggaree wound around it or a white cover with or without a neck curtain. Uncovered forage caps would have been a rare sight as the fighting mostly took place during the hot season.

The accoutrements on the Empress figures are also not correct for the Mutiny : the figures lack the waistbelt which had become universal by 1857, along with the pouch holding the percussion caps for the muskets and the 20-round expense pouch worn in front of the waisbelt mentioned above. .     

Offline Hupp n at em

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Re: Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2011, 02:14:17 AM »
I was not aware of this range!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* I have always been interested in that conflict, I may have to get them now...  :'(
Jim

Offline Conrad Hawkwood

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Re: Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2011, 02:42:29 AM »
Would they be good for the Sikh Wars?..which is much more fun anyway..

Offline Arthur

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Re: Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2011, 03:38:55 PM »
Yes, they'd be fine for the Sikh Wars, although the headgear would require a little bit of work.

The broad-crowned forage cap was still in use in 1846, but it was often fitted with a peak to shield the eyes from the sun. White covers (with or without neck curtain) were also almost universal. Since Empress already produce head sprues for the SCW and Zulua war ranges, perhaps Paul Hicks could be persuaded to do some separate heads with different headgear for this range.

Offline sepoy1857

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Re: Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2011, 08:20:22 PM »
I don't think these are suitable at all - but Mutineer Miniatures offers some stunning Brits for the Mutiny!
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Offline Conrad Hawkwood

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Re: Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2011, 02:03:42 AM »
Mutineer are OK..I wouldn't call them "stunning.."  good  but not stunning

Offline ccm001

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Re: Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2011, 04:00:33 AM »
I was not aware of this range!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* I have always been interested in that conflict, I may have to get them now...  :'(
Jim

Me too!!

Offline ccm001

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Re: Maori Wars and Mutiny brits..differences?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2011, 04:02:03 AM »
Same uniforms and same weapons... They are perfect for both conflicts (that is my idea).

I think so!

 

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