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Offline Pappa Midnight

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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« on: October 30, 2007, 04:37:43 PM »
Hi all,
Currently I use Humbrol Matt cote to finish my minis and have noticed that the results can be a little hit or miss.
I mix the varnish and shake it well, then apply a thin coat. Sometime it's OK and other times I still get a satin finish!!! :?

Can anyone recommend anything else?

I was looking at Vallejo or possibly an artist's varnish by Newton and Windsor.

Any ideas?

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Offline gilibran

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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 04:46:52 PM »
Daler-Rowney Matt Soluble Varnish

Have a look here:

http://forum.backofbeyond.de/viewtopic.php?p=25682&highlight=cryla#25682

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Re: Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 05:12:40 PM »
Quote from: "Pappa Midnight"
Hi all,
Currently I use Humbrol Matt cote to finish my minis and have noticed that the results can be a little hit or miss.
I mix the varnish and shake it well, then apply a thin coat. Sometime it's OK and other times I still get a satin finish!!! :?


Umm, I have a bottle of Humbrol  Matt Cote that is almost empty which has always produced perfect results.

I purchased two new bottles of the same and now have a similar problem to you, they are coming out satin every time.
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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 05:16:42 PM »
I gave up spray-on matt coats some time ago. Just like Malamute at all say, it is too much of a risk. I do a gloss hard coat and then brush on a reliable matt coat.

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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 05:21:54 PM »
Spray-on Testors Gloss Cote followed by Testors Dull Cote works for me. Had no end of trouble with Humbrol, but have yet to experience any difficulties with Testors.
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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 06:07:15 PM »
I use Testors Dullcote. After my 'accident' with Humbrol last year I haven't used them again.

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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2007, 09:34:20 PM »
Well I don't like a totally dead flat finish so i use Krylon Matte Varnish because it leaves a little life in my colors and especially because it doesn't kill metalics.  When I want dead flat I use Testor's Ultra Flat but it turns even bright metalics paints into grey so I don't use it often anymore.

Offline SirAlban

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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2007, 10:45:38 PM »
I always use Vallejo matt varnish, and works really great, never satin

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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2007, 02:23:25 AM »
Quote from: "matakishi"
I use Testors Dullcote.


Has anyone had any experience lately with Dullcote not exactly being matte but closer to semi-gloss?

I've had two cans of Dullcote that aren't anywhere near as close to the matte that I used to get from them.

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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2007, 07:09:32 AM »
Thanks for the replies. Well I'm glad it's not just me who has had some problems!

I'm going to dig out some old painted minis and try a few different ones.
I'm having some difficulty finding Daler-Rowney Matt Soluble Varnish in the UK but I can get hold of Testors and Vallejo so I'll give them a try.
I'll see if I can track down Krylon as well.

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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2007, 07:50:26 AM »
Quote from: "pixelgeek"

Has anyone had any experience lately with Dullcote not exactly being matte but closer to semi-gloss?

I've had two cans of Dullcote that aren't anywhere near as close to the matte that I used to get from them.


I believe there was a problem with a batch quite recently that was recalled.
Personally I've had no problems at all.

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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2007, 07:51:02 AM »
I also use vallejo matt varnish, applied with a thin brush, with perfect results.
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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2007, 03:11:23 PM »
I'll also chime in on vallejo matte varnish, though it needs to be agitated really well when the time between applications extends for more than a day or two. I also find the vallejo matte medium works well too. Not exactly sure if there is a significant chemical or compositional difference between the two but I've used them interchangeably with no ill effect.

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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2007, 05:06:21 PM »
Quote from: "number9"
I'll also chime in on vallejo matte varnish, though it needs to be agitated really well when the time between applications extends for more than a day or two. I also find the vallejo matte medium works well too. Not exactly sure if there is a significant chemical or compositional difference between the two but I've used them interchangeably with no ill effect.


I have tried it also, but IMO it is still only 2nd best after Testors (which is almost impossible to get in Germany :( ). I even tried the vallejo matte varnish spray, but it is still abit too glossy for my taste.

I will give the Daler-Rowney Matt Soluble Varnish sooner or later...
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Matt Varnish Problem. What do you use?
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2007, 08:28:34 PM »
I've ordered some Vallejo to try ( just a small tube) and I'll get some Testors.

Thanks for the replies.

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