Underwater Tabletop, anyone?

[Drachenklinge]

Hello Folkes!




This forum is kinda inspiring for new weird ideas ... maybe not so weird for others ... but to me anyway. Me, usually a dwarven player thinking about and underwater tabletop ... hellooohhhh?

So ... does anyone know specifically anything about such a system? I guess, there are lots of possible systems be adaptable for that, also many deep-see and diving minis from all sorts of TT-producers, but specifically a system?

What I do NOT mean is some submarine-TT-system, like sme sort of ship-fight-system. I DO mean some sort of 28mm tabletop-pulp-victorian-captain-nemo-like-deepsea-underwater-buildings-skirmish system. Imagine what kind of cool U-boats, submarines, deepsea-stations and monsters there might be. And all the brilliant colours! Oh, boys!
In addition there should be a lot of highly intelligent doplhins, evil-minded sharks (sharkmen anyone?), lots of selfmade-deepsea monsters (what about these horrors from GW? Excellent ray-fishes!) and all sorts of normal 28mm fishes! °_O And I haven't even began with all the plants and ship-wrecks ... and ... ohhhh!! ... whales! *purrr*

So, I think victorian would fit best, obviously not steampunk ... not sure about pulp, though.

And I REALLY MEAN "deep-sea"! No water-line simulation needed, when more then 3 miles under the sea!


Miniatures:
Actually there is more to be found, then I expected, but no specific system, I think. Maybe it is a bit difficult because nearly everything had to be put on "flying-bases" ...


I also have noticed these threads from March/May '09 & May/April '10
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=10040.0
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11037.0
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=18574.0
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=28847.0 / http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=29699.0

But maybe scubas are not able to dive that deep (even if starting from pressure-chambers)  ... not sure about the pressure-procedures - my basic knowledge comes more or less from therefore useless hollywood-movies.

Then there is that one:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=18012.msg217017#msg217017

Pictures and/or links form the threads
http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/leadbones/full/hardsuitgreen.jpg
http://www.assassin.de/Shop/Grafiken/as12-05snb.jpg

Wargames-foundry
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/victoriana/victoriana/deep_sea_divers_vc021/?comprisesofback=35032

Reaper
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Chronoscope/latest/50085

Warmachine
http://www.microconstruct.com/images/shop/view/PIP41039.jpg
http://www.microconstruct.com/images/shop/view/PIP41040.jpg
http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/PIP_Ghordson-Basher-Rhulic-Warjack.png

Bioshock-Warmachine ^^
http://www.gamesetwatch.com/090717-bioshock-warmachine-1.jpg

I evengot a few Grizzlies from Mongoose's StarShiptropper - might work to converse them, too
http://images.wikia.com/starshiptroopers/images/b/bd/Grizzlyexo.jpg
Maybe some space-suits are conversable here, too.

impressons and ideas ^^
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34699854@N07/sets/72157612926248911/

What do You think? Who likes to join with ideas and brainstorming?

crazy wishes
Drachenklinge

[argsilverson]

Nice and interesting idea.
Miniatures:
I just confirm that the ex HLBS deep sea divers are available form Tiger Miniatures: http://www.tigerminiatures.co.uk/page8.htm
Some nice Nemo-type sea divers from Reviresco: http://www.tin-soldier.com/cgi-bin/ustorekeeper.pl
and some from Brigade games: http://www.brigadegames.com/Ends-of-the-Earth_c_204-2-0.html
there are also some metal sea creatures available (Reaper if I remember well).
As for games:
I remember there was some Stingray underwater games:
some rules: http://www.jimwallman.org.uk/wargame/stingray.pdf
and some inspiration: http://www.salute.co.uk/salutegames/stingray/graphics/new_gallery.htm
These are referred to a much modern era Than Nem or VS,  but can be adapted or provide a good inspiration

The only problem is: miniatures like Ratnik, Brigade games, Wargames Foundry and even Reviresco have divers and deck crew for their preparation so, if wanting to use all figures available, you need two boards. One for surface and one for the sea bottom.

Terrain can be easily make even using real life sea debris likea algai, small and larger sea shells form souvenir shops etc.

[Malamute]

Interesting to see a deep sea diver with a flame thrower, not sure how that works under water

Lovely figures, they should fit in well with the current BLAM underwater game.

[Hauptgefreiter]

It seems that you missed this thread:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=24709.0

And this also might be of interest:
http://www.antimatter-games.com/shadowsea/

[argsilverson]

Interesting to see a deep sea diver with a flame thrower, not sure how that works under water

for some introduction see something from the modern world. Underwater welding:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_welding

Lovely figures, they should fit in well with the current BLAM underwater game.

Photos please. can't wait to see photos!

[Drachenklinge]

Interesting to see a deep sea diver with a flame thrower, not sure how that works under water

eeeeeasy! close-range-combat-welder with ... magnesia! tadaaa!
You do NOT want to have these touched against Your rubber or even metal deep-sea "swimsuit", huh? HUH!?

Thanks for the additional links! This forum is way deep already! Maybe I will reorganize the first post, later, to keep track of it.

@ land-based miniatures
well - I did NOT say, there could be no inside-station action! There should be some "deep-sea" stations to work and live at&in. Boy, did I say "Babes" already? Tons of lots of bikini-babes and the first time in tabletop-history WITH reason! Me, pure genius! 

And who likes to guess, what will happen if anyone fumbles a 1 on a W20 while doing the controls of some water-locks ... hnhnhn ...

best wishes
Drachenklinge

[argsilverson]

Boy, did I say "Babes" already? Tons of lots of bikini-babes and the first time in tabletop-history WITH reason! Me, pure genius!  

And who likes to guess, what will happen if anyone fumbles a 1 on a W20 while doing the controls of some water-locks ... hnhnhn ...

best wishes
Drachenklinge

VSF bikinis, yes I would like to see that, too!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/83287853@N00/94297204/in/set-72057594057956835

[Drachenklinge]

VSF bikinis, yes I would like to see that, too!

omg    You're right about that ... show some skin and be killed, right?

But well I guess them Malifeaux-miniatures should do the trick and somewhere in here Colette Du Bois from M had been posted already. Quite fitting for VSF, I'd say. And where the see is deep, the suits are short ... or so I have heard it said. ^^

best wishes
Drachenklinge

[gamer Mac]

As Chris said in the link above we are working on just that type of game.
Some of the threads so far
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=23520.msg286999#msg286999

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=24692.msg300329#msg300329

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=24214.msg294235#msg294235

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=23236.msg283784#msg283784

[The_Beast]

I'll have to chase links when I've got a proper screen and keyboard, stoopid notebook, but my original idea was to take Mage Knight 'Iron Lung's as Nemo's crowd carrying a mine to  float under a ship in water too shallow to run the Nautilus in for a ram.

Then, a pack of indigenous MK Deep Spawn would swarm and battle.

Remember, those divers above, and Disney's 20K, walked on the bottom. The Deep Spawn would glide over rocks, keeping low.

Movement would be almost like ground combat. YMMV.

Arggh, retyping and retyping! I give up!

Doug

[Drachenklinge]

I LOVE these brainstorm sessions ... cause ... come to think of it ... I have got two or three of these! At least similar ones. Little (ex)void-gliders might come in handy as some Sub-SRAVs!!* Maybe it is even possible to built some canopy for it ^^



also found these
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fzQTkEnOpyM/TAattvOvtaI/AAAAAAAAAEg/Iv9eK6sYJSI/s1600/orca1.jpg
http://www.miniaturereview.com/UserFiles/CriticalMassGames/KD/KDDC3b-600.jpg

best wishes
Drachenklinge

* you sure know the abbreviation of a submarine-short-range-attack-vehicle, now do you?

[CPalmer]

Here's some pictures of an underwater game I did at Historicon '06 using GASLIGHT.

[Drachenklinge]

have read this GASLIGHT-thingy a few times in here, before, but didn't connect it to some tt-system - will check that, now. So thanks for mentioning it!

best wishes
Drachenklinge

PS
that glassy village is funny, quite giving an sub-ambiente ^^

[Thunderchicken]

Has anyone mentioned the Scheltrum divers?:

http://www.scheltrum.co.uk/ironclad.html

Apologies if so, I've only got time for speed reading today.


(Nice game Chris).

[Laughing Ferret]

I love this idea.  -and great looking terrain & game CPalmer!

Reaper has so many appropriate minis, I've often looked at them and thought how much I wish there was more (or any) chance to game under water scenes.  Just do a search for 'sea' and 'slith' at reaper, plus they have several mer-people of both genders.

some of my favorites:



and this little sub from Tobsen77 is awesome