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Offline Conquistador

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2012, 09:44:33 PM »
Yes, Horses for Courses.  It's your painting that should be the prime focus.

Gracias,

Glenn
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Offline Dr. Kevin Moon III esq.

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2012, 11:09:34 PM »
Brilliant stuff, lovely to see the models with some paint on!

Offline jet

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2012, 11:44:04 PM »
Great work all around. They would be welcome on my table any day.

I would strongly recommend Chaos in Carpathia. I recently playtested and revamped some objective cards that have really taken the game up a notch in our group. I can certainly email you the Word document if you want to print off your own set.

Offline aggro84

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2012, 04:18:27 AM »
Thanks for the comments everyone. :)

Vyper & Prof- Yes, the eyes look weird. I touched on this topic in my Mythos thread a little.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=37127.0

I have a problem with fine detail work, and I find painting pupils really frustrating.
It is something I should definitely work on though.
Maybe when I get my EM-4 Post Apoc miniatures I'll give it another shot  :)
Thank you both for the constructive criticism.

Jet- I started out playing slightly modified Chaos in Carpathia for both my Gothic Horror and Mythos games.
I loved the rules. I've also been following your blog and various threads for a while before recently joining LAF.
I have printed out and used a lot of your resources and they were great fun. Your scenery is also awesome. I'd love to play on any one of those tables.

Offline magokiron

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2012, 06:04:09 AM »
Thanks a lot aggro, please see if you can talk to us about your home made rules.

Period.

What I didn't liked about CiCarpathia was that characteres seem to take soooooo looong to die, combats lasts forever!

Or maybe we just misunderstood all the combat secuence:

1.- To hit you need to get some more successes than the victim. (And need to CALCULATE all aplicable modifiers, like charging, weapons, special abilities, special rules, etc.)

2.- Then you should see by how many successes you did beat the victim's defense to CALCULATE the strenght of the damage.

3,- The victim makes a "resistance roll" trying to beat this strenght.

4.- CALCULATE the difference and substract so many life points from victim.

BUT each model has several hit points, and usually you only deduct one or two per attack.

In our first games, it were REALLY DIFFICULT to kill anybody.

As I said, we maybe just misunderstood the combat rules, but games just became very static after a while.

Period.

Anyhow, don't want to hyjack your thread.

Plase SHOW US MORE of your beautifully painted models.

Best wishes.
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Offline jet

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2012, 11:31:02 AM »
Hey Folks,

Just to clarify, I think you might have misunderstood the Damage process in CinC. Step 2 below is where you misunderstood I think. When a model is hit in CinC, it takes damage equal to the Damage Number (DN) of the weapon.

So, a Vampire with Claws (DN:5) who hits causes 5 damage. The victim of the attack rolls his Damage Resistance (DR) and, for every success he rolls, he takes one less damage than the DN. So, if a Human Hunter rolls his DR of 4 and winds up with 2 successes, he will sustain 3 damage, which is enough for a KO check.

I think  you'll find that, if you ever have the interest to try the game again, combat is actually quite lethal in CinC, not the other way round.

Offline aggro84

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2012, 05:03:25 AM »
Magokiron- no thread hijack here, I love talking rules.  :)

I'll explain what I mean by slightly modified Chaos in Carpathia or Goalsystem.
But before I do that I just want to clarify that these were all changes I made as a personal preference.
Scott Pyle wrote a great set of rules and I don't want people to think other wise.

I dropped Fate points and added a simple Morale System.
I never used Henchmen.

I also thought it would be more fun if both players were rolling dice and comparing their accumulated Goals.
So hit tests for example looked like this:
Attackers DEX+Traits + Modifiers Vs Defenders DEX + Traits + Modifiers
and damage tests looked like this:
Attackers STR + Traits + Modifiers Vs Defenders STR + Traits + Modifiers

Tied scores went to the Attacker and attacking a wounded model was a +1 Attack Modifier.

Finally I had to modify the weapon charts accordingly to fit my rule changes.

And that's about it.

I also spoke with my buddy, and he told me he was going through and making some updates to the rules and that he'd let me know when they were ready.
Just so you know it's a multi-genre system where we mostly focused on Mythos type gaming; however, we have played VSF, Gothic Horror, Mordheim type fantasy skirmishes, Sci Fi, and even a Superhero game or two.

I'll let you know when my buddy thinks the rules are ready.

I'll also post some more minis when I get a little more time.
Damn real life !  >:(

Offline aggro84

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2012, 03:50:21 AM »
Some asylum inmates.












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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2012, 07:16:58 AM »
I kinda like those pupil-less eyes. I thought of Mignola when I saw them.

While the paintjob is great, it has always been hard for me to love those Westwind werewolf miniatures. They are just...teeth. It applies to the werewolves I dig most of the other Westwind stuff.

Offline Krysset80

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2012, 01:21:10 PM »
I like the colors, I tend to use a bit to bright ones myself. I also have trubbles with eyes.. so tiny..

Offline inkwell

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2012, 05:00:39 PM »
Sweet work! Nice to see some West Wind stuffpainted up! I used to try and paint the eyeballs but I've found it much easier to black out the eye and dot the whites around the pupil.It might seem odd at first but I really like it. :) I also use those cheap dollar store reading glasses ,they help a lot...cause I'm an old fart lol

Offline aggro84

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2012, 05:26:41 AM »
Thanks Hammers, Krysset80 and inkwell.
I appreciate the comments

I think I'll continue with the fish eye look for certain types of minis.
I should try to start doing pupils at least for the female miniatures.

inkwell- thanks for the advice. I'll give that "black out the eyes first" method a try.
Also, I'm starting to get a little long in the tooth, but I still see up close pretty well  :)




And for those that might be interested:
I just got the go ahead, so here's a few links for my buddy's websites and rules.


Noble Pursuits, containing any hobby news related to the game.
http://matter-energy-space-time.blogspot.com/

MEST Tactics, containing files and works-in-progress related to the game..
http://sites.google.com/site/mesttactics


Feel free to send him any constructive comments. He loves to talk rules.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2012, 05:32:39 AM by aggro84 »

Offline pauld

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2012, 11:25:56 AM »
Wonderful, characterful painting - wish I could paint that well  :(

The photos are large, shrink them to actual miniature size and the eyes lose their standoutishness.  Better than mad, staring eyes any day of the week.

I downloaded the MEST rules.  These look interesting, I shall read and try to get my head round them.

Thanks
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Offline Mason

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2012, 11:39:46 AM »
Some great painting there aggro84!

Lovely PJ's bringing some really characterful miniatures to life.........or Unlife, in the case of some.

 :-*

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Re: Aggro84's Gothic Horror Thread
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2012, 03:46:46 PM »
Thanks again Mason. Thanks Pauld.

Pauld, feel free to contact the author of the MEST rules with any questions or comments, likes or dislikes.
He really loves talking rules.

 

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