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Offline KeyanSark

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« on: January 09, 2008, 04:26:34 PM »
An interesting historical setting for some games, based or inspired in the real raid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Nazaire_Raid
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2008, 05:20:30 PM »
Okay, so which crazy Lead Adventurer is going to volunteer to build a destroyer in 28mm?

And get the Prof to chain Grimm in the dungeon until he has made the entire dock area for the tabletop, including the U-Boat pens.

I was there this summer. Luckily the Nazis had gone home some time before my arrival, and so the Lewis gun I had packed for the trip proved an unnecessary impediment.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2008, 05:27:46 PM »
Does anyone do a 1/48th model?  Just a thought! It will be HUGE!!

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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2008, 05:29:55 PM »
Does anybody make commandos in kilts, by the way?

As I recall, some of them were bekilted at St. Nazaire.

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2008, 05:36:25 PM »
There is one Artizan para in a kilt.  That's all I know :(

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2008, 05:46:55 PM »
Quote from: "Plynkes"
Okay, so which crazy Lead Adventurer is going to volunteer to build a destroyer in 28mm?

And get the Prof to chain Grimm in the dungeon until he has made the entire dock area for the tabletop, including the U-Boat pens.


Call me odd but I have that planned out sort of. No Destroyer though, just a Trawler and a E-boat, and harbour, dock section etc. Should be finished some time after I finish the U boat pen. All in 20mm/28mm, naturally (but not the ships, sorry)
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2008, 05:49:29 PM »
Cool. Look forward to seeing that.

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2008, 05:53:36 PM »
Quote from: "Plynkes"
Okay, so which crazy Lead Adventurer is going to volunteer to build a destroyer in 28mm?


Oh, donīt act like you didnīt see that coming but... Iīve actually got a number of cardboard destroyers in that size which I made back in the 1990s; more of a Great White Fleet style, but you could re-paint and slightly convert them.

Actually, such a project has been on my list for quite some time, although Iīd prefer a ship to use for a setting akin to Corto Malteseīs "South Sea Ballad"...

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The Raid at St. Nazaire
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2008, 06:51:13 PM »
Quote from: "Plynkes"
Does anybody make commandos in kilts, by the way?

As I recall, some of them were bekilted at St. Nazaire.


Yup, last time kilts were officially worn in combat by the British army. Unofficially they have turned up every so often (for instance one officer wore one at Arnhem).

Sadly you'd have to convert. Nazaire would be a very cool game.

Incidentally there is a good Jeremy Clarkson documentary on the subject here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgF0R4dhUqk

Well worth watching.
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2008, 10:44:44 PM »
Paras in kilts ?

I don't even want to consider that one !

The Clarkson documentary was very good, but have you seen the documentary about the making of Clarkson's film ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Pq-1jyIMM&feature=related

The special effects were made by building a model destroyer (plus various MGBs and the harbour installation), and finally blowing it up. The details on the model were awesome.
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2008, 01:01:58 AM »
Quote from: "fastolfrus"
Paras in kilts ?

I don't even want to consider that one !
!


Imagine the psylogical impact.  After all if you looked up and saw a kilted man parachuting towards you wouldn't you want to run for the hills?

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2008, 02:22:00 AM »
Although its an old book (First published 1958, my paperback copy 1967):

The Greatest Raid of All by C. E. Lucas Phillips (Who also wrote Cockleshell Heroes)

An excellent account of the operation including numerous (22) diagrams and a few (B&W) pictures. Detailed target information, mostly by individual craft.

Five Victoria Crosses (2 posthumously) and numerous other medals were awarded as a result of the attack.

I've always considered it as a project (20mm) but its very unlikely it will ever come to fruition.

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2008, 02:52:40 AM »
If the idea of using destroyers of sloops to try to land a lot of men to seize a port is interesting, then also look at Operation Reservist at Oran in 1942:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Reservist

It would be an interesting change to game an event that pitted Americans and British against the French.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2008, 05:15:30 AM »
Just watched the documentary. Pretty staggering operation.

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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2008, 07:07:21 AM »
Quote from: Plynkes
Okay, so which crazy Lead Adventurer is going to volunteer to build a destroyer in 28mm?quote]

HMS Campbelltown would be only a little over 5 feet long in scale! She'd be slightly shorter if you modelled her the day after the raid, since the bow would be crumpled and she was down at the stern.
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