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Offline Operator5

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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2008, 02:50:10 PM »
Has anyone ever tried to figure out how big the ark would have to be to hold 2 of every species on the planet (excluding the ones  that already live in the water of course)?
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2008, 03:07:46 PM »
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Has anyone ever tried to figure out how big the ark would have to be to hold 2 of every species on the planet (excluding the ones  that already live in the water of course)?


Not entirely true. You have to consider, just to mention two, the fresh water sunfish and the Yangtsee dolphin (now sadly extinct since two years back).

On the other hand , when did logic ever matter when talking to a zealot?

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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2008, 03:43:27 PM »
Okay, just mammals there are approx. 4500 species. If you assume that about 1000 of them require an average space of about 10x10 and the remaining needing an average space about 3x3, you would need 131,500 sq. ft. If the ark were 300 ft long by 50 feet wide, there would been to be about 9 levels.

This does not take into account reptiles and birds either.

So an ark the size of an American Football field, at least 70 feet tall would be the smallest you could do.

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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2008, 03:45:20 PM »
anyway there weren't that many animal species back then! some of them evolved ....ooops!  :oops:
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2008, 03:47:44 PM »
...not counting feed for the beasts, aquariums for the freshwater creatures and the cabins and recreational areas for Noah's family (pool, bingo hall, shuffle board, what have ye)

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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2008, 04:46:55 PM »
Did they have deck chairs? I'm not going on any cruise that does not have deck chairs.

And a rock climbing wall.

And Skeet shooting (damn that Skeet Uhlrich!)


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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2008, 06:06:04 AM »
Raiders of the Lost Ark?  :?:  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2008, 06:08:35 AM »
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Oh dear...

This reminds me of my evangelical christian collegue in the US who was certain there were archeological remains of the Arch of Noah on top of Mnt Ararat. I asked him what his evangelical archeologists friends had thought of sifting through that thick layer of sediment which comes from having a pair of all species there ever was onboard, shitting to their hearts' delight.

...and I guess this post is my ticket to hell. :-)



You are in excellent company Sir.  :wink:

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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2008, 08:18:54 AM »
I want to know who drew the short stick and had to house all the poisonous reptiles, hostile insects and venomous aracnids.  I'm sorry, but the inside of the Ark would have been Hell on Earth.  Not to mention what are the chances of at least one of Noahs family having an alergy to at least ONE of the creatures onboard.  I grew up on a farm allergic to everything we raised and grew, that was misery I can tell you.

Also, please tell me that they had some simple efficient way to clean it out.
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2008, 12:24:29 PM »
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I want to know who drew the short stick and had to house all the poisonous reptiles, hostile insects and venomous aracnids.  I'm sorry, but the inside of the Ark would have been Hell on Earth.  Not to mention what are the chances of at least one of Noahs family having an alergy to at least ONE of the creatures onboard.  I grew up on a farm allergic to everything we raised and grew, that was misery I can tell you.

Also, please tell me that they had some simple efficient way to clean it out.


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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2008, 03:14:03 PM »
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Also, please tell me that they had some simple efficient way to clean it out.

Open all the windows and portholes and pray for a big wave!  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2008, 03:42:42 PM »
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Has anyone ever tried to figure out how big the ark would have to be to hold 2 of every species on the planet (excluding the ones  that already live in the water of course)?


There were more than two of each animal according to the Bible. Sheep, goats etc. had seven of each. Pigs and other prohibited food animals were in pairs.

There, now you know more useless trivia than you did yesterday  :lol:

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« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2008, 03:52:50 PM »
So was the Ark also a time machine?

I thought that Moses wrote the Torah (with all its long lists of abominations, thou shalts and thou shalt nots).


Edit: That tradition doesn't make any sense, either. He wrote it, but he dies in it!  (at the end of Deuteronomy) :)  I guess he borrowed Noah's time machine in order to obtain the spoilers for the last bit.
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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2008, 04:01:40 PM »
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Also, please tell me that they had some simple efficient way to clean it out.

Open all the windows and portholes and pray for a big wave!  :mrgreen:


Better yet, move all the animals to one end of the ship so as to submerge it. Repeat for the other end.

But here's a question - what did the carnivores feed on?
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2008, 10:37:43 PM »
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When you're making small talk with them, most of them are polite and friendly. Despite their bizarre and medieval positions, they usually have no experience with the kinds of things they rail against. They're systematically fleeced by their political and religious leaders into backing positions that are in their own worst interest. They live in areas where opportunities for work and education are limited. Religion is a comforting system that gives their lives some structure. They're just people in the end.

The really malignant extremists are a smaller minority than you'd think.


That was unusually wise and succinct for an internet post. PeteMurray, you are going to ruin the net's reputation as a soap box for hysterical screeching.  The Gibbon salutes you.

 

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