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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.126 - Assorted battlefield markers
« Reply #1905 on: September 20, 2020, 09:08:54 AM »
its a special green cloth....not the reverse side of a subbuteo pitch  ;)

 lol
So, you are not going to bother turning it over this time then?
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The trouble with embracing a new ruleset, is that the way you've organised your figures up to that point rarely fits the new paradigm...
In the case of 'Never Mind The Bill Hooks', rather like Lion Rampant etc., all the foot figures are in units of 12 or 6 (with the cavalry in 8s).

Unfortunately, my WOTR collection, created over the last decade, has grown organically in multiple factions of differing sizes, each with a mixed retinue of archers, billmen, men-at-arms, horsemen, gunners, crossbowmen, and supernumeraries... Normally, 20 - 30 figures per faction, but in random proportions. This arrangement suited the various homebrew skirmish rules I used to play games with them up to this point, where all figures are armed and fight 'as seen' - so it doesn't matter if you've got seven bowmen, five billmen, and three men at arms in one faction, but five bowmen, eight billmen, and four men at arms in another. And it doesn't matter if some factions are bigger than others - you just have to fight with what you've got. Which adds an element of realism, perhaps :)
Unfortunately though, that doesn't fit more orthodox style wargames rules, where you have six of one type, or twelve of another, regimented in units all of the same sort.

So for NMTBH, I'm having to do some reorganisation and refurbishment of my WOTR forces. Including repurposing (i.e. repainting) a few figures here and there, moving some from one faction to another, and even adding a few newly built ones to bring the numbers up to the required 12s and 6s.
I suppose I could just not have bothered and formed units in mixed liveries (which was probably what happened at the time). But it looks messy. I can cope with a unit half-and-half in two different liveries, but not a unit with several different liveries amongst 12 figures. It just looks wrong... So some rationalisation and tidying is underway.
One of the consequences is that where I had a small number of, say, half a dozen Tudors I'd made up just for fun, those (decorative but essentially useless) small contingents, will now get a change of livery and redistributed to larger factions. It's a pity in some ways, but there it is...

First up, some refurbished Scots mercenary pike (I have no idea if Scots mercenary pike ever actually figured in the WOTR - the Scots largely kept out of it IIRC - but it's possible, and the Scots were certainly well known for their long spears and schiltrons. So I've put two and two together and made a satisfying five!)

Here are the three newbies to make up the numbers. L-R: previously the sole pikeman in my 20-strong band of Flemish mercenaries got a new saltire on his shield; the fellow in the middle is a new build (I figured he could be wearing his dad's HYW-era long gambeson); and the one on the right is one of the aforementioned repurposed Tudors.



And the resulting 'new' unit...





I've just done the same thing with my red-and-white liveried Howard longbowmen, who have miraculously jumped from seven figures to twelve, by sacrificing a few one-off bowmen from smaller contingents...






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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - refurbished Scots pike
« Reply #1907 on: October 03, 2020, 01:05:38 PM »
Ah, the perpetual tweaking  lol

How many tweaks have you got to do?

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - refurbished Scots pike
« Reply #1908 on: October 03, 2020, 01:08:16 PM »
A lot  lol

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - refurbished Scots pike
« Reply #1909 on: October 03, 2020, 01:26:18 PM »
They are too handsome to be Scots!  ;)

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - refurbished Scots pike
« Reply #1910 on: October 03, 2020, 02:14:47 PM »
They are too handsome to be Scots!  ;)

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Why?? :D

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - refurbished Scots pike
« Reply #1911 on: October 03, 2020, 02:58:49 PM »
Why?? :D

Cause they are all barbarians from the north running around without underwear...  :D


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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - refurbished Scots pike
« Reply #1912 on: October 03, 2020, 04:18:44 PM »
Gorgeous work again.
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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - refurbished Scots pike
« Reply #1913 on: October 03, 2020, 04:25:17 PM »
Ah, come on boys... I was just teasing.

I lived 2 years in Elgin, Scotland next to the Moray Forth by RAF Lossiemouth. I found the Scottish folks to be wonderful people and had a great time there.

More great additions to your collection, Richard!  :-*

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - refurbished Scots pike
« Reply #1914 on: October 03, 2020, 09:49:55 PM »
I like the mix of the different medieval kits here!

Is the beard on the kettle-hat one sculpted on, or just painted?

Keep up the great work!

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - refurbished Scots pike
« Reply #1915 on: October 03, 2020, 11:00:58 PM »
Great work Richard
This is such an inspiring thread that it shouldn't be allowed  lol
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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - refurbished Scots pike
« Reply #1916 on: October 05, 2020, 12:10:54 PM »
Thanks :)


Is the beard on the kettle-hat one sculpted on, or just painted?


It's meant to be a five o'clock shadow - painted on (failed, obviously lol)

Meanwhile...

Have completed some more markers for Never Mind The Billhooks...

Order tokens. Blue and white for Somerset (Lancaster) with red roses (well, sprays of something or other) and murrey and blue for York (white flowers)...
I suspect they didn't really paint their lovely shiny helmets like this, but it's a popular trick amongst us medieval wargamers, and hell, it provides a very immediate visual cue :)





And some more arrow supply markers...



Shamelessly pinching Eric the shed's cunning plan, will probably use three different coloured micro dice to differentiate the status of longbow units: raw, retinue or veteran.



Or, more colourfully (ignoring my own self-imposed rule about not having luridly coloured plastic shit - sorry CHITS - on the tabletop), green for raw (green, geddit?), black for retinue and bloody red for veterans...



Decisions, decisions... ;)

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - more markers...
« Reply #1917 on: October 05, 2020, 12:41:07 PM »
Lovely job, Richard. Will really enhance your table.


Though I can't help but share your feeling that the dice skirt dangerously near to flouting your "no plastic or paper tat on the table" rule.  Maybe you could carve your own from some knuckle bones or something? ;)



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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - more markers...
« Reply #1918 on: October 05, 2020, 12:53:23 PM »
You could paint the dice.

Or you could have an arrow marker with six drilled holes and six small pegs.

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.128 - more markers...
« Reply #1919 on: October 05, 2020, 12:59:30 PM »
You could paint the dice.

That’s a good idea. You could paint the dice to match your ground colour and fill the pips with the quality colour.

 

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