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Author Topic: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. P.138 More Tenchley longbows  (Read 461437 times)

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1950 on: October 27, 2020, 03:40:46 PM »
As mentioned up above, I’m currently expanding my long-established WOTR retinues to form larger units for 'Never Mind The Billhooks'.
 
My very first Perry WOTR retinue (all those years ago!) was for the DeBrassey’s of Tandridge – a local ‘big’ family of the time.
I decided on an orange and blue livery (or tawney et azure for the cognoscenti) on the strength of a small plaque on the wall of a local church. I’ve picked a lot of my wargames heraldry this way ;)

I recently noticed however, that a banner included in one of the Perry medieval sets was the very same tawney and blue - for the Duke of Norfolk.

I was surprised because I always thought the Mowbray crest was a white lion rampant on a red field (‘Kingmaker’ again, see). However, it turns out that was John Mowbray, 3rd Duke of Norfolk (d. 1461, shortly after – although not because of - the Battle of Towton).
Not to be confused with his son, also John Mowbray, but the 4th Duke of Norfolk, who retained the white lion, but on tawney and blue field.
Quite why junior didn’t just stick with the established family livery of red, I don’t know. (Nor indeed, why another banner in one of the other Perry plastic sets - also a white lion rampant on a tawney and blue field - is given as the Earl of Derby. Because the Earls of Derby throughout the late medieval period were Stanleys, not Mowbrays…  And this bears no resemblance to the livery of the Stanleys…)

Sigh. It’s all very confusing, and this is why I originally left the major houses of the WOTR alone, and focused on building retinues for small, local magnates instead…

However, since Michael was kind enough to include that standard in one of his kits, it seems rude not to use it. So for the purposes of NMTBH, I’m going to reconstitute my DeBrasseys as Mowbrays (they'll still serve as DeBrasseys for my smaller local skirmish games). This involves adding half a dozen more billmen, and half a dozen more longbowmen. Plus the banners.

First up, here’s John Mowbray, 4th Duke of Norfolk, on foot (a Steel Fist figure) along with his standard bearer, and a couple of Perry plastic hard nuts – his personal bodyguard perhaps.
I have a few more of these to do, to bring me up to a unit of 12 veteran billmen.
The banner is the Perry paper one, with a little retouching here and there.

Also shown, another disarray marker I knocked up at the same time...










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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1951 on: October 27, 2020, 03:45:29 PM »
Very nice but you know it would be easier to make it all up  lol

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1952 on: October 27, 2020, 03:50:24 PM »
Very nice but you know it would be easier to make it all up  lol

Drawn from the list of well known comedians and light entertainers of the 70s and 80s?  ;) lol
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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1953 on: October 27, 2020, 04:04:45 PM »
 lol

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1954 on: October 27, 2020, 04:06:42 PM »
Drawn from the list of well known comedians and light entertainers of the 70s and 80s?  ;) lol

It's been done already ;) lol

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1955 on: October 27, 2020, 04:40:02 PM »
Other themes are available.
Footballers from the 60s & 70s.  That would be the BEST.

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1956 on: October 27, 2020, 06:25:45 PM »
Gorgeous!
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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1957 on: October 27, 2020, 08:10:48 PM »
Lovely additions to the collection Richard  :-*


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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1958 on: October 27, 2020, 08:54:09 PM »
Nice work  8)

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1959 on: October 27, 2020, 09:53:08 PM »
Beautiful painting! They will look superb on the tabletop, especially with that impressive standard. I am not an expert on the Period - were they really that large?

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1960 on: October 28, 2020, 01:47:06 AM »
My Mo
Footballers from the 60s & 70s.  That would be the BEST.
The characters in my Mordheim warband are all named after Springboks. :)

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1961 on: October 28, 2020, 07:34:59 AM »
Gorgeous as always.
And as I’m trying to paint some Stanley’s at the moment I share your frustration with liveries, badges and arms!!
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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1962 on: October 28, 2020, 09:20:00 AM »
My very first Perry WOTR retinue (all those years ago!) was for the DeBrassey’s of Tandridge – a local ‘big’ family of the time.
I decided on an orange and blue livery (or tawney et azure for the cognoscenti) on the strength of a small plaque on the wall of a local church. I’ve picked a lot of my wargames heraldry this way ;)

I like this, pujtting a bit of  local history into your games.

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1963 on: October 28, 2020, 09:36:36 AM »
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Footballers from the 60s & 70s.  That would be the BEST.
The characters in my Mordheim warband are all named after Springboks. :)

Good try!

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Re: Captain Blood's Perry Mounted Men at Arms. NEW P.131 Mowbray to Framlingham!
« Reply #1964 on: October 28, 2020, 10:07:46 AM »
The Sikh soldiers in my Congo project are all named after Punjabi cricketers. ;D



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