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Author Topic: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm  (Read 99899 times)

Offline gibby64

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #450 on: April 24, 2019, 10:04:28 PM »
What a great project. Well done.
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Offline Dilettante Gamer

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #451 on: April 24, 2019, 10:35:05 PM »
Sukhe back with a tour de force!!!

Man, oh man! You are the wind beneath my GoT project wings. 

What I particularly appreciate is your inclusion of the many banners for each major house.

BRA-VO <slow clap>
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Offline Coenus Scaldingus

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #452 on: April 25, 2019, 04:32:08 PM »
A most glorious sight!
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Offline Captain Blood

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #453 on: April 26, 2019, 07:58:57 AM »
An amazing spread to see them all together like that. What a great project  8)

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #454 on: April 26, 2019, 08:40:43 AM »
Thanks one and all, and my inspiration came from the likes of you and your ongoing projects. I'm only sorry I can't show better photos since I'm not tech savvy. I have some more detailed and some pics of more scenics I've worked on but the file sizes are too large for the attachment thingy.
My main problem has been my desire to represent the major Houses using proxy figures from an era where surcoats and shields were rarer. I'm hoping the crossbowman pavises I'm planning will give me a canvas to fully express my inner herald for at least some of them.
The other decision is to stick to ASOIAF book descriptions only and avoid non-canon references where possible, many of which contain inaccuracies - chevrons the wrong way up etc. The sigil for House Charlton is depicted as 3 sprigs of holly when it is clearly stated as "Lord Charlton's 3 sprigs of mistletoe" (AFFC, p.644). This decision can present organisational as well as representational issues. The sigil for House Vance is nowhere described in the books yet he is a major leader for the Riverlands faction.
Many of the sigils for other Houses are referred to by their sigil only with no colours given. The badger of Lydden, the Heron of Erenford, the rooster of Swyft (I went with an obscure yellow chicken reference). Others have a colour reference for the sigil but still no field colour. I've put these on white field colours as a default. When the units are combined into units they look very medieval.
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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #455 on: April 26, 2019, 11:05:23 AM »
Totally agree with that SB, as discussed oft before. Far too much Westerosi heraldry bandied about is pure invention by GoT fanboys and girls, and not canon. Despite the fact that some of these spin-off compendia are allegedly ‘authorized’ by the great man himself.
But given that GRRM’s approach to heraldry is pretty fanciful in the first place, this froth of third party creativity compounds the weirdness of some of the ‘sigils’ and tinctures. On top of which we also have Messrs Weiss and Benioff’s highly stylised interpretations accepted as canon by many. Which is understandable, because they look great. But they are often quite different from what is described in the novels.

Like you, I’ve stuck to what’s described in the novels. Pretty easy in my case, since I’ve only modelled the big main houses in my modest collection, and not the myriad of little ones. But I salute your rigour in sticking to the genuine source material across so many different houses! 8)

Offline sukhe_bator

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #456 on: April 26, 2019, 11:40:51 AM »
It’s not just the scale of the project - 500 odd figures - but the range of different Houses that makes it so impressive.
It started off modestly enough, but after a box of this and a box of that it soon adds up, particularly if you stash away the results into metal tins out of sight in the interrim. I simply wanted to recreate the wonderfully colourful medieval look of ASOIAF. A collection of disparate factions which could be combined in a variety of ways and upscaled from skirmish to big battles really appealed. I also liked the infighting backstories in the books like the feuding between Bracken and Blackwood. My Middle Earth collections by contrast are predominantly black and white, blue and white, green grey and brown, black and red, or red, with no actual differencing or complex heraldry. This recent photoshoot has been one of the few opportunities to get everything out to have a troop review. I'm shocked by the amount as well. No wonder the project is taking ages - and I haven't really got to grips with the cavalry yet!

Offline sukhe_bator

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #457 on: April 26, 2019, 12:51:25 PM »
An attempt to resize an image of my scratchbuilt 25mm homestead. The two dark age style huts are made from foamcore, balsa and matchsticks with milliput thatch and stonework. The log cabin is from a Pegasus 1:72 Russian peasant house kit, with milliput thatch and stone chimney. The scandinavian palisade is from kebab sticks and cocktail sticks while the stakes are retasked from the Perry English Army box
« Last Edit: May 15, 2019, 09:24:17 AM by sukhe_bator »

Offline sukhe_bator

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #458 on: April 26, 2019, 01:10:17 PM »
And my largest build of last year, and largest ever timber framed wooden construct, 'The Three Crowns' inn with an ambitious decorated triple jetty, with wooden gallery and covered staircase connecting to a row of first storey rooms and attic rooms above. The footprint of the gallery is shown on the white foamcore template. Once I have figured out how to effect a junction with the shingle roof levels I'll fix the L shape permanently together and begin work on the gallery. There will be a separate cobbled yard and stable block. Inspiration for the gallery is taken at least in small part from the Lord Leycester Hospital in Warwick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Leycester_Hospital.

Offline sukhe_bator

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #459 on: April 26, 2019, 01:26:27 PM »
The Northern houses in a tad more detail, Umber, Hornwood, Glover and Stark

Offline HappyChappy439

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #460 on: April 26, 2019, 06:21:04 PM »
Oh! Thanks for the closeups of the Northern Houses! I'm never quite sure how to actually *do* the Umber sigil so always good to see other peoples' interpretations!

Silly question, but where are the bodies with leather cowls(?) and bald heads from? Like the Hornwood archer closest to the camera

Definitely interested to see more of your heraldry too! Some of the smaller houses are pretty lacking with the descriptions so trying to find a nice compromise between medieval authenticity and canon-compliance is pretty difficult!

Keep up the great work! 

Offline AKULA

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #461 on: April 26, 2019, 07:13:49 PM »
Some of the smaller houses are pretty lacking with the descriptions so trying to find a nice compromise between medieval authenticity and canon-compliance is pretty difficult!

Couldn’t agree more with this sentiment.

Thank you again for such an inspiring thread.

Offline Dilettante Gamer

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #462 on: April 27, 2019, 09:28:54 PM »
Day-yum! Those structure builds are delightful! Loving this stuff.

Offline sukhe_bator

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #463 on: April 29, 2019, 08:39:41 AM »
Oh! Thanks for the closeups of the Northern Houses! I'm never quite sure how to actually *do* the Umber sigil so always good to see other peoples' interpretations! Silly question, but where are the bodies with leather cowls(?) and bald heads from? Like the Hornwood archer closest to the camera
The A Wiki Of Ice And Fire Umber giant in chains looks more King Kong like. My version is based more closely on the book descriptions of the giants. Martin paints them as more yeti-like which informed my own giant conversion from a GW LoTR Troll.
As you can see from the attachment (in this case a selection of figure mash ups that became House Frey, most of the cowls, fur collars and fur capes are simple greenstuff additions which as well as adding character can cover joins and flaws. In the case of the Hornwood archer - he has a Perry Ansar head on a WOTR archer figure.
I got a lot of inspiration from this seminal book -https://www.amazon.co.uk/Medieval-Soldier-Campaign-Recreated-Photographs/dp/1859150365 Both well respected authors draw from their extensive knowledge and experience and there is no better way to understand armour than to wear it. There are some fabulous figure studies with a wealth of costume and equipment detail that translates really well into a Westerosi setting.

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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire in 25mm
« Reply #464 on: April 29, 2019, 10:03:05 AM »
Some good putty work there, the folds in the cloaks look great
 :)

 

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