47 Ronin Movie

[THE CID]

Looks daft, but alright for a drunken night on DVD.

[starkadder]

Aaaargh, I have just seen the trailer and it looks awful.

The gai-jin saves the day, eh? Why have they let Reeves go off his medication again?

I'll enjoy posting a review or seventy on Rotten tomatoes and IMDB.

[white knight]

The gai-jin saves the day, eh?

It's a long standing movie tradition that a washed out white man, preferrably with a drinking problem, who trains for a couple of days/weeks will surpass any samurai who was bred for it and trained all his life. Just common sense, really.

[Modhail]

Ooh, ooh, don't forget the troubled past and/or heavy conscience!
Can't be White-man-who-saves-the-world without it...

[elysium64]

Doi detect a touch of cynicism here 

[Mr Tough Guy]

Just seen the trailer and was rather disappointed to see that Hiroyuki Sanada is in it 

yeah the cast is surprisingly good, with some decent actors, shame they had to shoehorn keannu in it, or is this secretly Bill and Ted 3? in which case it all makes sense and I forgive him immediatly 

[Modhail]

Doi detect a touch of cynicism here 

Maybe a bit of resentful disappointment. 
I am rather curious about the movie though. I intend to ignore the name completely and just watch it as a fantasy flick.

[Suber]

If you dare, you can have a look at the 1962 movie. I say 'dare' as it's three and a half hours long. Of course there is sloooow action (except for the final battle, which it's totally cool) and lots of Japanese introspection and debate about duty and honour. (I believe there is even a previous movie shot in 1941).

I don't know why they keep the same title, don't really think it can be taken for a remake, nor the movie or the original story. Maybe another kind of approach would be more successful.

[Dal]

Hmmm what next.... 

 Keanu as an Edo period law enforcement officer...

   "Watashi wa shin  sen  kumi no ējento"

[Legion1963]

Not to fond of Mr Reeves either. However, it was the first serious 1/35 scale modelkit that i did sp i might watch it, at some later date and for only that reason and curiosity.

[starkadder]

I don't know why they keep the same title, don't really think it can be taken for a remake, nor the movie or the original story. Maybe another kind of approach would be more successful.

The 47 Ronin story has a similar cultural echo to the OK Corral in the US or Ned Kelly in Australia. Everyone in Japan knows the story and just wants to see that generation's interpretation. Sadly, this generation's version has been corrupted by manga and short attention spans.

I have copies of of Mizoguchi's 1940s version and Inagaki's 1960s version. It's really useful to look at them as cultural mirrors of their times. I much prefer Mizoguchi.

[Slayer]

well i seem to be the only one who is looking forward to watching this, i go into a movie expecting nothing but to escape reality and have something resembling a plot....   

[white knight]

I think it could be a fun movie, the only reason they're getting so much preemptive flak is that the title made people expect something it's not.

[Vermis]

I think it could be a fun movie, the only reason they're getting so much preemptive flak is that the title made people expect something it's not.

Yeah, funny how slapping the name of an established story on a movie will make people expect something resembling it. 
I've thought it a few times: "I dunno what that was, but they shouldn't have called it X 'cos it ain't that!"

[white knight]

I agree they only have themselves to blame. They were trying to cash in on an established subject while doing their own thing and it backfired.

This being said, how many young people really know there is something else called "47 ronin" out there? Or give a fuck?