The Game's Afoot...

[Dewbakuk]

Just as a slight note, a large proportion of Victorian London didn't have seperate pavements at the time. It's part of the reason for a step on every house.

[Elk101]

Just as a slight note, a large proportion of Victorian London didn't have seperate pavements at the time. It's part of the reason for a step on every house.

Quite true for much of the urban area, particularly the poorer areas. Hector Green's commentary on Bethnal Green in 1848 mentions that very fact, adding that only in the past ten years had the 'chief roadways' been paved. I seem to recall a major paving work programme in part of London. It's referenced in one of my books so I can dig it out if anyone is interested? I'm slowly putting together a similar board to Yanjeepedlar anf wanted to include a wealthier area with pavements. It also helps to convey a sense of 'main street' and 'side street' hierarchy. I also want to use the same terrain for WWII and modern post-apoc! I'm undecided on what to do so take great interest in
others' ideas! I think Sarissa are supposed to be releasing some pavements?

All in all very good point to make, Dewbakuk!

[Yankeepedlar01]

Just as a slight note, a large proportion of Victorian London didn't have seperate pavements at the time. It's part of the reason for a step on every house.

A good point, but as I also want to use it through to 1940,and even beyond, then it will have some pavement areas. There will also be yards with walls & privies, which I believe are in the Oshiro pipeline.

[Malamute]

There will also be privies, which I believe are in the Oshiro pipeline.

He is the Privy King

[Traveler Man]

Very nice buildings, and I like how the whole is adaptable to other periods.

[joekano]

Very nice!  Looking forward to seeing how this paints up.

[Craig]

I've slipped a picture and link onto the IHMN blog 

[Dewbakuk]

wanted to include a wealthier area with pavements. It also helps to convey a sense of 'main street' and 'side street' hierarchy.

All in all very good point to make, Dewbakuk!

A good point,

Thank you gentlemen, it's something that is often overlooked

With regards to wealthier areas, for the Victorian period, the better areas would have pavements, but they would also most likely be Georgian style buildings and town houses. It's unlikely to be Victorian architecture within the city. As time moves on of course, the larger Victorian houses become the residence of more wealthy people and they would all gain pavements (or at least a kerb row against the building). At least until more modern times when inner city areas tend to become rougher almost regardless of style.

[Skrapwelder]

I'd like a clarification from Dewbakuk if he doesn't mind. When you say pavement are you referring to the walkway alongside the road or the road itself. For some reason I seem to recall that the term "pavement" in the UK is what Americans would call the sidewalk.

Thanks

[kidterminal]

Side walk is what he means based on the context of his comments, but in the US the word unpaved is also used to refer to backwoods roads without macadam(blacktop).

[Dewbakuk]

That's right, you guys call them sidewalks 

The vast majority of roads would have been covered with either setts, bricks or cobbles depending on area and use. The very impoverished areas and working yards could still be compacted dirt though. The buildings on roads without pavements (sidewalks) opened straight onto the street, which as I said is one of the reasons for a front step to the doors.

Interestingly, in some locations, while there was no pavement they did have an area that was intended for pedestrian use beside the houses. This was depicted by altering the pattern of the covering. It's only really clear in pics that had the brick style road as it's obvious where they've been turned 90 degrees to show the area.

Given the vast number of horses and wagons in Victorian London however, I would be very surprised if they paid any attention to the pedestrian area of a road.

[kidterminal]

That's right, you guys call them sidewalks  

The vast majority of roads would have been covered with either setts, bricks or cobbles depending on area and use. The very impoverished areas and working yards could still be compacted dirt though. The buildings on roads without pavements (sidewalks) opened straight onto the street, which as I said is one of the reasons for a front step to the doors.

Interestingly, in some locations, while there was no pavement they did have an area that was intended for pedestrian use beside the houses. This was depicted by altering the pattern of the covering. It's only really clear in pics that had the brick style road as it's obvious where they've been turned 90 degrees to show the area.

Given the vast number of horses and wagons in Victorian London however, I would be very surprised if they paid any attention to the pedestrian area of a road.

Ah, I've seen a picture like that from a BBC Show set, I thought they were cutting cost by not adding a curb.

[Elk101]

Wood was also apparently used as a road covering. Basically wooden setts. Stone was considered very noisey so wood was utilised.

[OSHIROmodels]

You've made a grand start on those David 

It's true, pavements, backyards, outside toilets etc all all being worked on at the present. Still some sizes to work out regarding the pavements to make sure they work properly but hopefully they'll all be ready by the end of July 

cheers

James

[Yankeepedlar01]

You've made a grand start on those David 
Thank you James! They all have the roofs slated now too.
It's true, pavements, backyards, outside toilets etc all all being worked on at the present. Still some sizes to work out regarding the pavements to make sure they work properly but hopefully they'll all be ready by the end of July 
Excellent news! I need two more houses it seems, one with a pub front if possible!

cheers

James