The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread

[Arlequín]

Personally I think they missed the boat years ago, by not charging entry to their numerous 'miniatures galleries', offering a guided tour of the racks for an additional fee and having a small gift shop near the exit which sold miniatures of the miniatures, pencil sharpeners, bookmarkers, postcards and the like.

They could have applied to the Lottery Fund and everything.

[3 fingers]

Or charge to exit the shop?

[Tactalvanic]

Or charge to exit the shop?

Both, more on the exit than entry ticket.

There are Paul Rand collectors out there.  At one of the museums in my past, I assembled an exhibit about him using books, book covers, and various product packaging that we loaned from private collectors.

Thats actually interesting, and, like with other known graphic designers and artists, help show how they shaped and influenced their surroundings, how they were influnced and the products etc associated with their work.

As with being able to see the packaging of products change over years to match the changing world they are in and the customer base.

GW of course have that policy of not telling who does what? or is that just for rules sets/models?

Come and see my GW stamp Collection...? 

GW stamp collecting. sounds like a good idea, they can sell the IP to different country postal services.

I wish I could take them more seriously after all they have done for the hobby. But I can't.

[Arlequín]

I can somehow see 'Penny Black' and a '£50 Ultramarine' stamps competing for 'highest at auction' in some future time.

  

[nic-e]

Well, it looks like work ill be taking the price of the latest boxed game straight out of my pay this month ,as the deathwatch miniatures look great. I may even see if i can paint up the store copy....

[Vermis]

Well, it looks like work ill be taking the price of the latest boxed game straight out of my pay this month ,as the deathwatch miniatures look great. I may even see if i can paint up the store copy....

I just saw this myself. Pics up on the Dakka news topic:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/671862.page

These are the ones that interest me the most.









There, GW. See what you can do when you really want to?

[beefcake]

I think I just... Hooray. Hybrids are back! Now I can scour ebay for reduced price metals. Those look really nice as well. Perfect for a Necromunda group as well. I don't think GW has had me this excited in... 15 years? more?

[Lawful Evil]

I don't think GW has had me this excited in... 15 years? more?

It might not be as long for me, but I admit, I'll have to buy these miniatures, and it'll probably be my first GW purchase since the embargo a few years ago.

[Nord]

They do look very slick indeed. Quite amazing in many ways, these are plastic minis. It widens the gulf of quality even further, when you look at what the rest are trying to do with plastics. I'm no GW fanboy, I hate their marketing practices, but have to admit these are pretty damn tempting.

[majorsmith]

I'm actually liking what GW are trying to do, they seem to be listening to the gaming community a bit more, the prices need working on, but I can see some improvement in what they are doing, the starter army boxes are really good value, and these genestealers look fantastic, I'm very tempted to buy some

[Nord]

Well, not sure if they are listening that much - this would have been developed two, three years back? And they certainly don't listen to the volume of complaints on price. Or the love for WHFB. Let's not get carried away here. This is a decent boxset for sure, like all their boxsets. Meanwhile they continue to release single mini clampacks at £18 a pop! Just noticed that they are selling an ork warboss and five nobs, from a previous boxset, at £32 - I think I bought the whole box which contained loads more orks and marines for £60. So yeah, the boxes are good value, but I don't really see signs of improvement, quite the opposite from my standpoint.

[nic-e]

Also this box contains ten named black library characters, in plastic. I've not read the deathwatch books but we're I a fan I'd be pretty happy to get all the characters in one box.(now imagine of they did gaunts ghosts vs cultists amd the men of iron......)

[The Voivod]

I do like the models ( a lot), but what about the game?

We all remember the 'we sell models, not games' remarks.

I have no use for these models in other games, so if the game isn't any good, this box isn't

which would be a bloody shame....

[Vermis]

Fortunately I have a copy of ViDe:FuCo, so I'm set.

For any 40K players, IIRC the 40K rules for these will be in a couple of upcoming WDs. I think I read something about a mini codex in the future, too.

[Elbows]

While I'm not sure they're directly listening to customers they're definitely experimenting with ways to generate additional income, and I do think price is a consideration for them at this point (at least, solely based on entry level expectations).  I still believe the cheap "hook" is there and then you end up feeling compelled to buy a $20 single plastic figure, while you just received 30+ figures for $65 in your starter set.

I think it's obvious to a lot of people that "luxury" boardgames are every where.  There is a big market for $80-100 board games.  I think the new version of specialist board games (Assassin thing, Betrayal at Calth, Deathwatch etc.) are a simple way to get $120-200 out of nostalgic gamers, normal board gamers (who may be unaware of GW and its methods/universe etc.) and as a starter set for people ---- who may discover they like the universe and may eventually look into 40K, etc.

As with all of their starter boxes, they do tend to throw the entire GW pricing structure under the bus...but that's good for us, and maybe still accomplishes there goal of hooking the customer into considering buying more stuff in the future.

Also, it's a great way to get current 40K players to buy several $120 sets to attain limited edition miniatures etc.  Just like BoC is making people buy numerous copies to run full 30K armies, this game will likely be bought up by folks who want to run a Genestealer Hybrid force.  You'll probably have some folks buying 3-4 copies to get enough miniatures to run a full force etc.  Boom, you just sold a $400 army to a customer.

Same thing with the limited edition marines which I imagine will be included - if the game is $120-150, a lot of folks will still buy it just to get those marines.  I think it's some of the smarter stuff GW has done in years.  I'd like to see them continue down this path.