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Offline Mr. White

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10635 on: November 16, 2019, 12:29:53 AM »
yeah, I would buy that ^ Amazonia model for sure.

Regarding a return to the Old World...I wanna know why GW announced this 'three years' out? They've held their cards pretty close the last few years. Only announcing stuff a few weeks ahead of time.

What's the deal here?

Is Kings of War that much of a threat? Is KoW getting a new edition? Why does GW want rank-and-file fans to sit on their wallets? It seems they want to take the wind out of the sails of _something_.

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10636 on: November 16, 2019, 12:36:05 AM »

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10637 on: November 16, 2019, 12:57:33 AM »
I really liked the idea of Hobgoblins being steppe types, with Mongol or other Asiatic styling - the Oglah Khan wolf riders were well done - but the odd knife-dancing ones with the giant hats were really awful. Lustria in general has been left to whither on the vine as has everything else beyond the rather restrictive Old World map. Remember the punk-haired Amazons?
Don't know if true, but I heard Oglah Khan and Ghazak Khan were discontinued due similarities with WWII caricatures of Asians. :-I

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10638 on: November 16, 2019, 01:21:32 AM »
yeah, I would buy that ^ Amazonia model for sure.

Regarding a return to the Old World...I wanna know why GW announced this 'three years' out? They've held their cards pretty close the last few years. Only announcing stuff a few weeks ahead of time.

What's the deal here?

Is Kings of War that much of a threat? Is KoW getting a new edition? Why does GW want rank-and-file fans to sit on their wallets? It seems they want to take the wind out of the sails of _something_.
Hasslefree offers it's own version, called Blanche.

I guess in three years' time, demand for Age of $igmar would wane and I get the impression it's not as popular as 30k or 40k...

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10639 on: November 16, 2019, 01:27:52 AM »
Oooh lovely mini  :-*

I wonder if GW will do a Warlock figure too? IIRC, weren't the two bundled together? Depending on the price, it might be cheaper scouring eBay for the lead versions... lol

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10640 on: November 16, 2019, 03:59:25 AM »
The new Necro is more expensive than I thought it would be, given that everyone who really wants Enforcers already owns them. If this were the first we've seen of the Enforcers, I imagine this would have sold like hotcakes.
Though on second thoughts, I guess the terrain is the selling point. It does look lovely.

Beefcake - I feel your pain. It was only when I moved from NZ to the UK that I felt able to get back into the hobby at all!
As an Enforcer player, I've been waiting for Subjugator bits and I hope these will be available separately - 12 man box? Until then, I'll scour eBay for the box contents... 

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10641 on: November 16, 2019, 06:54:42 AM »
Regarding a return to the Old World...I wanna know why GW announced this 'three years' out? They've held their cards pretty close the last few years. Only announcing stuff a few weeks ahead of time.

What's the deal here?

I wonder if this was something a lot of people asked for on the GW survey. When they announced Sisters of Battle they did so saying it'd be 2 years till they were released.
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10642 on: November 16, 2019, 09:27:40 AM »
I wonder if this was something a lot of people asked for on the GW survey. When they announced Sisters of Battle they did so saying it'd be 2 years till they were released.

That’s what I thought, the hype for SoB has been sustained for a couple of years without much let up!

I figure it’s also a way of sustaining their insane profits, they’re going to run out of things to release at this rate.

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10643 on: November 16, 2019, 10:41:55 AM »
That’s what I thought, the hype for SoB has been sustained for a couple of years without much let up!

I figure it’s also a way of sustaining their insane profits, they’re going to run out of things to release at this rate.
And the hype appears to have worked - the new Sisters of Battle set has just sold out in 13 minutes (pre-order for most the world minus NZ, AUS, Japan and North America).


Very confused by the Old World revival. Not particularly excited actually, partially due to the way they ended it the first time, partially because we have no idea what the revival even means, partially because the quality of lore, rules and some designs as of late have not exactly been inspiring. However, anything based on existing designs has been rather terrific in modern plastics (the aforementioned SoB are a pretty good example), so new figures could be great. Bringing back older plastics seems strange seeing how they only recently culled large proportions of the Empire, Wood Elf, High Elf, Dwarf and Greenskins ranges. Not to mention the full extermination of the Tomb Kings of course, who had many recent plastic kits. Though I imagine it will involve something like that, with anything that was metal/resin replaced by new plastic sets too (as they're certainly phasing out anything that isn't plastic now).

But even that last part is confusing. Various 40k armies still have a lot of resin in the ranges. As do a fair few Age of Sigmar factions in as far as those factions/units survived the transition. In addition, there still are several old factions that have basically gotten nothing new in Age of Sigmar so far (Ghouls/Skaven/Ogres got 1 character sculpt? Others like the Lizardmen nothing but rules?), and a whole range of factions they haven't even got around to releasing (the new shadow something elves led by what used to be Malekith, similar for light elves, now apparently new Orion-esque wood elves, perhaps a new actual normal human faction?). Where will they get the production capacity to recreate the old WHFB figures if they already appear to struggle updating their core ranges?
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10644 on: November 16, 2019, 12:54:20 PM »
yeah, I would buy that ^ Amazonia model for sure.

Regarding a return to the Old World...I wanna know why GW announced this 'three years' out? They've held their cards pretty close the last few years. Only announcing stuff a few weeks ahead of time.

What's the deal here?

Is Kings of War that much of a threat? Is KoW getting a new edition? Why does GW want rank-and-file fans to sit on their wallets? It seems they want to take the wind out of the sails of _something_.

I think Kings of War has a respectable following. The new edition came out this month. And very nice it is too.

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10645 on: November 16, 2019, 03:15:42 PM »
So basically all we can do here is try and guess what this ‘new’ warhammer world is going to turn out?
After the way they blew up the original Warhammer world, I’m in the synical camp.
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10646 on: November 16, 2019, 03:43:15 PM »
At first I was a bit cynical about what they'll do with the Old World in this way, but I've thought about it for a bit and am cautiously optimistic. They're aiming at the nostalgia market. They've seen how well their Specialist Games revival is doing, they've seen there's still a market for rank and file games, and there's still a market for fairly down-to-Earth (ok, compared to Age of Sigmar's style of fantasy that is) fantasy with regular medieval humans milling about in identifiable ways. If they bring this out and it's the Old World with heavy AoS flavour, they'll lose the very market this move is aimed at, rendering it pointless.

Ultimately though, for me this announcement comes a bit too late. About a year or two ago I'd be super excited, but since then I've been collecting 6th Edition books and building my own forces from various ranges, accepting that the Old World I love still exists in my mind to be gamed in with any willing friends. What I do hope for is that some of the old kits make a return as there are some forces I'd like to do that 3rd party manufacturers just don't do as well (for my tastes).

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10647 on: November 16, 2019, 03:59:53 PM »

Regarding a return to the Old World...I wanna know why GW announced this 'three years' out? They've held their cards pretty close the last few years. Only announcing stuff a few weeks ahead of time.

What's the deal here?

Is Kings of War that much of a threat? Is KoW getting a new edition? Why does GW want rank-and-file fans to sit on their wallets? It seems they want to take the wind out of the sails of _something_.

exactly my thoughts which I've expressed in kind on the TGA board.
seems very strange on the face of it.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2019, 04:01:27 PM by Bloggard »

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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10648 on: November 16, 2019, 04:18:03 PM »
So basically all we can do here is try and guess what this ‘new’ warhammer world is going to turn out?
After the way they blew up the original Warhammer world, I’m in the synical camp.

My local store manager has confirmed to my gaming club that it is essentially what the Horus Heresy is to 40k. So it sounds very much like it is gaming in the old world. Whether that will follow the new rules or a new version of WHFB we'll just have to see. But I don't mind that tbh.

As an Enforcer player, I've been waiting for Subjugator bits and I hope these will be available separately - 12 man box? Until then, I'll scour eBay for the box contents... 

"Hope" - I've seen comments like this around before. Of course they'll be available separately. They have been confirmed to be released as a 6 model box. So this new boxed set has half a box of the enforcers and an entire box of Subjugators.
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Re: The LAF Games Workshop Discussion Thread
« Reply #10649 on: November 16, 2019, 05:00:21 PM »
My take on this is GW probably plans to largely "fill in" the majority of 40k and AoS factions in the next 3 years and needs something new in which to keep the money rolling in.

In the last few years we've seen a massive reinvention of Fantasy in AoS and the expansion of/replacement of Old kits and Factions in 40k. I've no doubt that with the reintroduction of Necromunda, Titanicus and Aeronautica that in the next 2 years we will see Epic and Gothic return (as they seem to release one of these games each year). I don't know what we will see for AoS, but I suspect after Shadespire and Warcry something will come along.

However at the end of the 3 years maybe the opportunity for BIG releases for AoS and 40k might start to dry up.

I suspect the Old World is a way to counter this, as well as offer reimaginings of other legacy games like Mordheim and Warmaster. I also suspect, like others have said with GW leaning more towards plastics that we will see Horus Heresy in Plastic make a return during a similar time period as well.

Why they've announced it now is a bit bizarre, though I suspect the plethora of Rank and File fantasy games from other manufacturers may have caught them off guard.

 

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