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Offline mdomino

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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #60 on: December 10, 2013, 03:49:07 AM »
I really like both concepts, especially the first one. Will likely buy a couple of the first and one of the second to use for SP1889 games.
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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #61 on: December 10, 2013, 10:10:18 AM »
Mitchel, if the goal is to please everyone...go ahead and give up now.  Ain't gonna happen.

You'll end up with three kinds of customers:

1) People who buy it and build it as-is.
2) People who will not buy it.
3) People who will buy it and kit-bash it...turning it into whatever they want.

All of your concepts are fine and will likely be successful.  Do they appeal 100% to everybody?  No, and that's impossible anyway.  Don't fret about it.

PS: This is partially why I suggested making at least part of the kits modular.  If you release 2-3 different designs and some parts can be swapped you'll attract even more customers.  You'll still get guys who take submarine kits and then mix them with your aeronef kit anyway!   lol
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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #62 on: December 10, 2013, 11:19:49 AM »
This is partially why I suggested making at least part of the kits modular.  If you release 2-3 different designs and some parts can be swapped you'll attract even more customers. 

This

and also the problem with the 2nd design, because the boat body is not modular, it's a boat with things attached to it. That's why I offered the body variation examples

Offline The_Beast

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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #63 on: December 10, 2013, 03:19:07 PM »
As the fellow that started the thread, I'll be the first to say the criticism seemed negative to me at first, as well.

So let me offer my apologies, to all who commented, at my misunderstanding. Absolutely, pages of comment does indicate strong interested, indeed!

Along with, my sincere thanks! Plenty of reservations mentioned mirrored some of my own, along with a few diametrically opposed views.  lol

Doug

PS In business, EVERYONE is a 'potential' customer; just haven't had the right pitch.  :D

Offline Mitchelxen

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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #64 on: December 12, 2013, 06:26:02 PM »
Not quite an aeroneff but at least a flyer. This is concept art from our Airship Pirates Miniatures line. Any thoughts?
http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/15/8369_12_12_13_7_24_09.jpg

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Offline Dewbakuk

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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #65 on: December 12, 2013, 07:01:29 PM »
Not bad, only a couple of niggles  ;)

It has no real way to land or take off other than crashing to the ground and throwing itself off a cliff edge. If it's not going to have rear legs then the tail needs to be longer and muscular so that it can at least get it's wings off the ground without falling on it's face.

It look like it has wings like a bat, which wouldn't normally have a gap between the wings and the body. So the harness wouldn't fit around the body like that. If the wing design has gaps in it then I'd suggest making them a bit more obvious.
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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #66 on: December 12, 2013, 07:49:55 PM »
It look like it has wings like a bat, which wouldn't normally have a gap between the wings and the body. So the harness wouldn't fit around the body like that. If the wing design has gaps in it then I'd suggest making them a bit more obvious.

Harness isn't really straps, more rigid bands that 'hook' on. I think Barbarella had a rig like that...  ;)

Sorry, all of the 'niggles' bother me hugely, and in the end, while it might be slightly usable in a lost continent campaign, I can't get over looking at it and saying 'fantasy'.

Doug

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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2014, 02:43:29 PM »
The Aeroneff drawing in 3D render has been started. This is a good start!
You can see how it can be modular and it doesn't look too, too naval ship in the air at all.


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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2014, 03:04:50 PM »
excellent, this is starting to look like business now  :-*

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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2014, 03:31:49 PM »
Excellent. Rivet count please  ;)

Offline Mitchelxen

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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2014, 04:05:59 PM »
Rivet count is zero at this point  ;) We are still laying down the hull and boilers as it were.

Offline ecwcaptain

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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #71 on: February 22, 2014, 05:09:41 AM »
I would 110% buy this for $50 (or even $60).

In reading this thread, one very important aspect has not been commented on, and I guess taken for granted it will be right from the get-go. That is, since this is 25mm size, then you need to make sure it fits 28mm figures or just a tad larger (32mm) as that means when they are mounted on bases and such. This also means under any overhangs on the model.

Plus, a very BIG important item, is that everyone figures are suppose to be placed on the decks, that the width will allow *Based* figures that will accommodate about 3/4-inch width of a base. Therefore, I would recommend allowing a minimum of 1-inch (or 1.5 inches) anywhere a figure is to be placed (i.e., between housing and railings, gun mounts and railings, etc.). Remember, some gamers have fat fingers, and you need to make it relatively easy to get in/out with figures.

For me, I play Space 1889, so VSF aspects with regard to appearance (boiler, liftwood, etc.) is much more important.

Hope the above helps.

Regards,
Bob Giglio

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Re: Should RAFM build 'nefs?
« Reply #72 on: February 23, 2014, 02:41:12 PM »
Excellent points, and ones those of us who kit-bash learn all too hard.  lol

Doug

 

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