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Offline religon

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #45 on: January 31, 2014, 07:02:34 PM »
For Professor Moebius, I'm using a Dr. Jekyll figure from Foundry. As I can't find it on the website, it may be an OOP, limited edition figure.

Offline Dewbakuk

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2014, 08:39:07 PM »
For Moebius I used this guy on the far right, just swapped the pistol for a syringe.

So many projects..... so little time.......

Offline Thorwin

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2014, 03:45:58 PM »
If Northstar would do your complete list, they would be my heroes!!!!

Offline Craig

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2014, 05:35:43 AM »
They would be mine also. However, they are a small company with limited resources so I am just grateful for the splendid support that they have already given us.
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Offline Thorwin

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2014, 10:34:11 AM »
Perhaps via a small kickstarter campaign, just a thought.
I think you can never have enough miniatures  :P

Offline Dewbakuk

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2014, 01:26:22 PM »
Perhaps via a small kickstarter campaign, just a thought.
I think you can never have enough miniatures  :P

My understanding is it's much more to do with sculpting time than money.

Offline lou passejaire

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2014, 01:52:04 PM »
My understanding is it's much more to do with sculpting time than money.

erhhmm ... i'm quite disappointed when i see many of those small companies working on the same anglo zulu range , or  WW1 .

a lot of sculpting time , and i'm not sure for money ...

But we can find quite all the figs for the companies in IHMN and HVF , the main problem, is that, because of the multi-figs pack policy, and the lack of store with a "good" range of products , it's expensive , very expensive .
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Offline Irishrover13

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2014, 03:49:17 PM »
erhhmm ... i'm quite disappointed when i see many of those small companies working on the same anglo zulu range , or  WW1 .

a lot of sculpting time , and i'm not sure for money ...

But we can find quite all the figs for the companies in IHMN and HVF , the main problem, is that, because of the multi-figs pack policy, and the lack of store with a "good" range of products , it's expensive , very expensive .

And with rising shipping prices in Canada I am in the same boat.
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Offline Craig

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2014, 07:38:37 PM »
One thing the gaming world is not short of are Victorian, VSF and Steampunk figures.

I, for one, am grateful for the faith and support Nick and his team have given to our little project. Without them I doubt that IHMN would have become so popular so fast  :D.

And now we now have the opportunity to get Jesse McGibney's brilliant illustration of the industrial walker made real by Nick and the lads. What many people do not know is that if Jesse had not submitted that piece to Osprey there would be no mechanical walkers in IHMN at all  :o

Offline abdul666lw

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2014, 09:56:27 PM »
What about a few female soldiers?
(usually it's in 18th C. boards that I pester people with this idea >:( )
In the Western world from the end of the Dark Ages to WWII women fought rarely, and then generally masquerading as menhttp://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=294048. Yet in some extreme circumstances -desperate sieges, specially during a cruel civil / religious war where there is little hope of mercy- some fought openly and in significant numbers. In Victorian times it occurred during the Commune of Paris, and then some of them even received an uniform.









The idea being quite 'modern' / revolutionary for the time, the képi looks indeed for fitting than, say, a pickelhaube.
I know Brigade Games have ACW female zuaves but being old sculpts they are probably smaller than most 'modern' ranges? (Although, women being on average more petite than man, it may be a minor problem).

Btw, I probably missed them, but I don't remember IHMN companies of Hinterland Hussarettes?

;D  Westwind Nadezhda Durova could provide a daring (with this House Escher Mad Donna hair cut!) dashing young commander: there are historical precedents of officers sporting a pelisse while their troops are in dolman only; and her revolver is definitively a super-weapon.

200% personal but the 'WWI' Trench Raiders look too 'modern' for IHMN, imho.





Offline Craig

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2014, 05:41:24 AM »
What about a few female soldiers?

You will note that we have included women in many of our companies. Women played a much more direct part in history than many historians of the period were willing to record.

I particularly like your pictures of the Paris Commune. The Incendiaries of the Brick Lane Commune are modelled directly on those brave ladies.

Offline Bullshott

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2014, 08:19:48 AM »
What about a few female soldiers?

Brigade Games do a couple of packs of women in zouave uniforms for GASLIGHT games set in the ACW. These would work nicely in a French setting too.

http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/Gaslight_c_137.html
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Offline abdul666lw

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2014, 12:31:14 PM »
It would be ideal to have alternate versions of the same uniformed Victorian female soldiers in trousers AND in skirts.
Trousers are more convenient for field campaigning but skirts are less of a hindrance in siege / street fighting / stationary guard. Given the prejudices of the time, in 'regular' forces women would be accepted at most in some form of Home Guard / Sedentary National Guard and would be expected to wear skirts:

Co.A of the 62nd St.John Fusiliers of New Brunswick aka the Amazonians at the time of the Boer Wars.
'Revolutionary' armies are another matter entirely, hence both types of uniforms would be useful.


Now, Robida when illustrating his vision of the 20th C. dressed 'active' women followed what was then the most 'modern' / 'progressive' style of female fashion: with the socks (often covered with gaiters) and trousers of *bicycle riders*; worn under, to keep the costume feminine (and for 'decency' sake? Probably also to allow the use of a fashionable tournure 'bump enhancer'), a 'cosmetic', almost symbolic hiked up short skirt (the miniskirt of the time):








Thus Robida provides us with an "authentic" period pattern for late 19th C. women uniforms. Unfortunately not translated into miniature figurines so far.
Robida's design is all the more interesting and relevant as he himself had a keen interest in the history of women fashion.



Actually with this design historical VSF author Robida was unquestionably -if in a more subdued way, he was publishing in the 1880- a precursor of 'steampunk' female fashion:






(Michael Dooney '1887 Ladies')

Now, wargaming minis are not intended to be submitted to close scrutiny but to be seen from some distance on the playing table: the most distinguishing features have to be somehow emphasized :D  (far better than the oversized hand and feet of so many Foundry, GW &c... imho).
« Last Edit: February 10, 2014, 04:36:50 PM by abdul666lw »

Offline abdul666lw

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2014, 02:19:58 PM »
To have them looking 'ultra-modern', even 'futuristic' for the 1880 Robida gave bicycle riders socks & breeches to all types of troops of 'progressive' design or serving 'futuristic weapons' or contraptions:
crews of his 'flying scout crafts' and 'torpedo airboats' (which btw look less 'waterboats somehow flying' than many Space 1889 designs, for instance):



submarine crew:


chasseurs cuirassés:


mitrailleurs à hydrogène:


and specialists of biological and chemical warfare (he was specially fond of the idea, in a macabre way):









Note the unconventional braiding of the dolman often favored by Robida. The next image (right) shows another of his original concepts: a cavalry helmet with a 'gallic' rather than' classic romano-greek' (à la Schomberg ) crest helmet:



Too bad no VSF miniatures sculptor feels inspired by these 'historically accurate' VSF uniforms!
« Last Edit: February 10, 2014, 02:22:08 PM by abdul666lw »

Offline zbyshko

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Re: Finding figures
« Reply #59 on: February 25, 2014, 06:08:07 PM »
Too bad no VSF miniatures sculptor feels inspired by these 'historically accurate' VSF uniforms!

I agree with you on the relevance to the era: Robida is the illustrator with the contemporary eye for what we would want is a 'realistic' VSF look.  i wish more 'Steampunk' couturiers would see these images and follow the ideas.

I am truly inspired by your selection of illustrations but sadly lack the skill to execute them in miniature or the money to pay bribe someone to sculpt them.  I foresee a lottery ticket in my future, but the numbers are hazy...  o_o

I note the two reference to the Canadian female unit include an item in my library already - Frank Chadwick's Soldier's Companion.  I will need to dig that out and have a read.

Thank you for your diligence and patience in assembling a massive post.
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