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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2014, 04:09:19 PM »
I am not sure if the belgian 47 AT gun can be used?

Old Glory and scarab both make the 37mm Puteaux trench gun

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2014, 04:17:43 PM »
the belgian one was an Herstal production, strictly belgian , not the french 47mm produced by Puteaux Arsenal  ;

Dans les situations critiques, quand on parle avec un calibre bien en pogne, personne ne conteste plus. Y'a des statistiques là-dessus.

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2014, 08:08:10 PM »
well, after the Eritrea campaign I can have anything Italian   ;) 

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2014, 11:42:41 AM »
after Koufra too

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2014, 02:28:43 PM »
any source about what vehicles L-patrol used?
« Last Edit: September 24, 2014, 02:30:22 PM by bedwyr »

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2014, 06:44:03 PM »
from different sources for Koufra :
2Laffly S15R
2Laffly S15TOE armoured cars
a certain number ( 5 to 10 ) of Chevrolet and ford ( the kind used by LRDG )
25 Bedford 0;5 ton
2 Laffly trucks ( carrying the 75 portee,  laffly S15T AOF ( AOF for saharian use ) from what i have found  )
29 Matford ( Ford trucks build under license in france ) 3 tons
and an Austin car and a Matford car .

The other Laffly S20 & Laffly S15T  issued to the french army in 1939 were not useable in the desert ...


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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2014, 10:30:39 AM »
here is an interesting video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtDXWliXlb0
at 13:25 ... give a look  ;)

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2014, 10:40:33 AM »
I am currently rebooting my knowledge of the period, to see what I could have missed, now that my perspective has changed

the main reason my own project is stalled is the fact that I wanted to do vehicle units and realised I did not know enough about the topic.
So I am researching the transfer of the train d'equippage to motorization....
luckily, the motor transport division relied heavily on requisitioning during wartime...

unfortunately, there is nothing to be had, so I drafted every single sitting figure I could get - 5 men from three manufacturers....
« Last Edit: September 26, 2014, 01:56:19 PM by bedwyr »

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2014, 11:40:49 AM »

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2014, 12:55:46 PM »
... and realised I did not know enough about the topic.

You are not alone, this thread has really opened my eyes. I felt that I knew a little about the French Army in the Pre-War and Early War period. Now I know I knew nothing.

;) 

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2014, 01:48:56 PM »
the early war french army is unknown even from a lot of french wargamer  ;)
it's quite difficult as there are many sources, in french, and mostly paper sources .

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2014, 01:58:48 PM »
I cannot help but claim it a bit on the dominance of the anglosaxon language and culture in the world of visual media. How else could, for example, such an excellent movie like "Capitaine Conan" have gone almost unnoticed...

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2014, 02:55:03 PM »
I agree, the anglo-centric nature of wargaming and media is not a good thing. There is a tendency to be lazy and stick to sources in English, which often either disregard 'other nations' in the main, or make things up/mistranslate them when faced with another language.

For me the Spanish Civil War is a case in point. All the information is there, in Spanish, yet most English sources on the topic have perpetuated myths previously created by others unwilling to make the effort to research properly. As a result we have things like the Osprey book saying 'they used the usual three squad organisation' (or something like that), when at that time three squads was unusual in most armies.

Language is always a gap, but thankfully it is being bridged.  :)

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2014, 03:03:01 PM »
unfortunately, I will never be able to understand as many languages as I wish I would.

But we are lucky here to have french fellow forumites who can help us plug the gap  :D

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Re: The French Army in the early 20th century - wargaming resources
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2014, 03:03:46 PM »
It's just that a lot of peoples , in the wargame area, are more "authors" ( that's to say egocentric peoples ... ) and not historians ( science peoples knowing that they know only a few things ) .

( and searching in the archives of the armie is not easy ) .


 

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