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Offline Conquistador

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Re: Joe Abercrombie - great books for background
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2014, 10:59:13 AM »
my favourite currant fantasy

a currant fantasy?

My blood sugar just blew off the meter!   ;)

Okay, seriously, haven't read them but the whole mixed history aspect is where a lot of of current trend towards alternate history fictional works break down because people don't really get a good grasp of historical relationships.  Did you find elements from mixed historical periods breaking your suspension of disbelief or were they really minor anachronisms?

Gracias,

Glenn

Edit: I blame the chef comment for randomly pushing my 'skew' button...  "Chef' - 'currant' - 'fantasy'... all it lacked was chocolate...
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Re: Joe Abercrombie - great books for background
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2014, 12:33:36 PM »
No, it didn't 't break my suspension of disbelief. I don't tend to read fantasy from an historical point of view, there was nothing that really jarred for me and felt like it couldn't exist. The real world has always existed with a variety of technological levels

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Re: Joe Abercrombie - great books for background
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2014, 03:15:31 PM »
No, it didn't 't break my suspension of disbelief. I don't tend to read fantasy from an historical point of view, there was nothing that really jarred for me and felt like it couldn't exist. The real world has always existed with a variety of technological levels

Okay, thanks.

I guess all that training as a historian has warped me.  ;)   I may take a copy out of the library to read.

Gracias,

Glenn

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Re: Joe Abercrombie - great books for background
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2014, 03:25:07 PM »
trope
trōp/
noun
1.
a figurative or metaphorical use of a word or expression.
"he used the two-Americas trope to explain how a nation free and democratic at home could act wantonly abroad"

cli·ché
klēˈSHā kli-,kli-,ˈklēˌSHā/
noun
1.
a phrase or opinion that is overused and betrays a lack of original thought.
"the old cliché “one man's meat is another man's poison.”"
synonyms:   platitude, hackneyed phrase, commonplace, banality, old saying, maxim, truism, stock phrase, trite phrase; old chestnut
"a good speechwriter will steer clear of clichés"
a very predictable or unoriginal thing or person.
"each building is a mishmash of tired clichés"

Ask and you shall receive...

Gracias,

Glenn


So, the word or expression that is used figuratively or metaphorically would need to be well known and well used for it to be of value as a trope. In short, it would be a cliché. Possibly. What do you think?

I have a sneeking feeling that "trope" is one of those words that are often employed to give an extra veneer of importance to s statement. It's been around a long time but in recent years has really made its mark.

I reckon if one was gaming Abercrombie, you could get away with using orcs as Shanka. To me, they sound like a more believable version of the semi-human spawn of evil.

Doug

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Re: Joe Abercrombie - great books for background
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2014, 05:56:42 PM »
So, the word or expression that is used figuratively or metaphorically would need to be well known and well used for it to be of value as a trope. In short, it would be a cliché. Possibly. What do you think?

I have a sneeking feeling that "trope" is one of those words that are often employed to give an extra veneer of importance to s statement. It's been around a long time but in recent years has really made its mark.

I reckon if one was gaming Abercrombie, you could get away with using orcs as Shanka. To me, they sound like a more believable version of the semi-human spawn of evil.

Doug


I think the difference is clear.  Like Red and Scarlet, there is an appropriate place to use each.

Gracias,

Glenn

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Re: Joe Abercrombie - great books for background
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2014, 12:04:20 PM »
....there is an appropriate place to use each.

Gracias,

Glenn


I'm sure there is - it's the inappropriate use that I'm interested in....

Doug


Offline ALizardInCrimson

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Re: Joe Abercrombie - great books for background
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2014, 08:52:54 PM »
my poor amazon.com shopping cart is now creaking under the weight of these books.

thank you for mentioning them

 

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