Medieval Christian "god" for Of Gods and Mortals?

[timlillig]

Sorry, I got that reversed.  White cross on red is the Hospitallers.

[nic-e]

As for Mantic figs, I do like the look of them, but, I'm swearing off Restic unless it's a fig I absolutely have to have.  I'm slowly working through my Deadzone figs (rebs and forgefathers) because I really like the sculpts and subjects, but it's an infuriating material to work with.  I'd take PVC, plastic, resin, metal, even finecast, over it any day.
I have to say, I didn't realize that this war-altar idea that GW has used so often actually had some basis in reality.  Very interesting.

I think those mantic figures are metal.

[eilif]

I think those mantic figures are metal.

I wish they were. Unfortunatley they are "Plastic Resin Miniatures"...
http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/basilea/product/basilean-elohi-3-figures.html
…which is another way of saying "run away, run away!"

There are two individual metal models, but the style isn't as nice for their price, I'd rather have the Reaper fig.

[fastolfrus]

Sorry, I got that reversed.  White cross on red is the Hospitallers.

I always thought the Hospitallers were white on black?
As seen now on the St John's Ambulance teams.

[timlillig]

I always thought the Hospitallers were white on black?
As seen now on the St John's Ambulance teams.

My understanding (which is not that great) is that they used both red and black, each with a white cross. I'm not sure when each color was used or who would use which color.

[Patrice]

St. Louis IX of France

Not sure if he became a saint because of the Crusades he did lead... a whole tactical mess although he was a saint.

[Vanvlak]

I always thought the Hospitallers were white on black?
As seen now on the St John's Ambulance teams.

When in Malta from 1530 to 1790 it seems they used the white on red.

[eilif]

You folks are amazing. Looks like I've got some Hospitaliers.

Did a bit of looking around and it also appears it was a Teutonic German Warflag in the late 1300's. 

All around, though, except for the Swiss and Danes, it appears to be vastly less common than red on white.  Perhaps  dying an entire garment red was rather expensive.   Taking the imagination one step further, what would might happen to a white horse with red livery on a rainy day?

[janner]

When in Malta from 1530 to 1790 it seems they used the white on red.

They seem to have shifted to a battle surcoat of a white cross on a red field c.1248.

The black habit was retained for daily use though 

[Mason]

.....probably mostly with existing stat-lines from the 7 official army lists.

What are the other three, as there are only four in the book?
 

[eilif]

What are the other three, as there are only four in the book?
 

There are three free-to-download lists on the Ganesha webpage that are deemed "Tournament Legal" (who hosts OGAM tournaments?..).
-Pre-Islamic Arab
-Japanese
-Incan

Confusingly, they are under a tab called "Of Gods and Mortals Printed book", but there's the direct link to the page:
http://www.ganeshagames.net/index.php?cPath=1_45&osCsid=a8us23brj6l5khvsqlogeonkc6

Someday, I may create my own, but between these 7 lists, almost every potential archetype for Gods, Heroes and Mortals is pretty well covered.

[Mason]

There are three free-to-download lists on the Ganesha webpage that are deemed "Tournament Legal" (who hosts OGAM tournaments?..).
-Pre-Islamic Arab
-Japanese
-Incan

Confusingly, they are under a tab called "Of Gods and Mortals Printed book", but there's the direct link to the page:
http://www.ganeshagames.net/index.php?cPath=1_45&osCsid=a8us23brj6l5khvsqlogeonkc6

Someday, I may create my own, but between these 7 lists, almost every potential archetype for Gods, Heroes and Mortals is pretty well covered.

Thanks, eilif!
 

Great for referencing what is an appropriate 'power level' as the building system could be abused by power gamers.
So it is a good thing that I wont be playing OGAM with any of that sort.
 

[eilif]

Thanks, eilif!
 

Great for referencing what is an appropriate 'power level' as the building system could be abused by power gamers.
So it is a good thing that I wont be playing OGAM with any of that sort.
 

Happy to help and I very much agree with you. Power gamers should not be allowed anywhere near the unit creation systems for OGAM or SBH.  To be honest, I have no doubts that power gamers could still "break" the game using the existing official lists, but at least it's some kind of restriction.

Not that it worries me as I also don't play with any of those sorts of gamers. They wouldn't last long in our club.

[LordOdo]

A white cross on a red field is also the Heraldy of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Utrecht, which was very powerful in the Netherlands in the middle ages

[Doomsdave]

Thought about the Seraphim (highest of the angels) and the Cherubim (second in command) in a army, but, if I remember correctly, these 2 classes are just there to "bless" god, flying around his throne etc.
So, they actually don't have contact with humans and are not member of the fighting classes of angels

So, I think an archangel would be the proper choice of an armyleader

But I like the idea of Patrice regarding the mini.
Maybe using a bigger scale as base for the angel?
Like 40mm or even 54mm?

Some Cherubim acted away from the throne. From Genesis 3:
 
24 He drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life.

But they are mostly seenin the presence of the throne.  There has always been some conflation of the 4 living creatures (around the throne) of R evelation and the Cherubim as well.