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Author Topic: The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)  (Read 17983 times)

Offline Mason

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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2015, 08:23:47 PM »
Not to derail or steal the thread,
I am a long time fan of Elric and oldhammer.
I would love to start a small project. I have  some celtos, Gw, chronopia somewhere.
lots of info for all the young kingdoms colors, but what colors are the Melnibones armor?
I can't seem to find anything.

No problem, sir.

The only reference I have seen is for bronze armour, which suits me as I intend to go down that route and will be testing out my ideas on some other armored figures before I start on these.
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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Figures.
« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2015, 10:04:15 PM »

I'll be looking deeper into the lead pile,tomorrow,as there's still stuff missing from the elf draw,so I'll start looking in the  40k,and Dwarf draws,during lunch.(hopefully that should do it ,otherwise its a bottle of red and an evening pretending to work,because it's bugging the heck out of me.)

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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
« Reply #47 on: February 27, 2015, 01:32:16 AM »
Here is a quick couple of shots of the conversion that I have knocked together to use as Elite Guards for the Army....









I have gone for a chunkier, more imposing look for this unit.
This is going off tomorrow to be cast up.


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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
« Reply #48 on: February 27, 2015, 02:47:33 PM »
VERY NICE, Paul! Having a somewhat more substantial Guardsman seems like an appropriate change from the more normal anorexic look I associate with Melniboneans.
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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #49 on: February 27, 2015, 06:09:43 PM »
There was a topic discussing it in Moorcock's Miscelany but i cannot find it. There were also army lists for OOT, but  neither i can find them. Anyway, if you look at this link:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=8047.0

Inside there you can find this interesting assesment:

"Heldrak answered well: the Young Kingdoms are pretty il-defined and thinly written.
But we have a few clues nonetheless:
Dharijor is an expansionist state ruled by a king and a small noble class. Cavalry are equipped with horse armour and described as knights. Armour and helmet plumes are generally black although nobles may have more colour and decoration. King Sarasto is noted as wearing dark yellow armour.

Foot soldiers are mentioned in black armour and equipped with halberds. Archers are assumed from the description of a battle involving Dharijorian troops which opens with ‘a rattling black cloud’ of arrows.

Jharkor is ruled by a king and a nobility (although after the death of King Dharmit, Queen Yishana assumes the throne). Jharkorian knights are recorded in gold armour, charging at the gallop with drawn longswords.

Infantry weapons are not described but probably are a mix of bow, javelin and spear. Infantry can be supplemented by camp followers, slaves and serfs. It is not clear whether the latter formed some kind of ‘rising out.’

The White Leopards are an elite guard of 500 picked men who ‘run as swiftly as horses, are as strong as mountain cats and ferocious as blood-mad sharks – they are trained to kill and killing is all they know.’ They are wiped out fighting a rearguard action, in the face of hopeless odds, at the battle of Sequaloris. They fight on foot and are clad in silver armour emblazoned with a leopard.

Tarkesh is a northern state that provides excellent sailors and ships. Galleys are long and low with a single bank of 10-50 pairs of oars crewed exclusively by free warriors. These men tend to be short and dark faced with black hair and beards.

Horsemen are described as knights clad in thick blue armour with red, purple or white plumes and armed with lances. Foot soldiers outnumber horse by about five to one. Infantry weapons are not described but, given the nautical influence of Tarkesh, are likely to be a mix of sword, axe and bow.

Purple towns is an island specialising in trade and ruled by a council of merchants consisting of the nine wealthiest men.

Armour is generally toughened brown leather supplemented by ornate gilded breastplates and helmets. Cloaks and banners are exclusively purple. Some individuals are noted as carrying large axes that require some strength to wield and this may suggest a trained core. Ships crew are generally armed with cutlasses and shortswords.

Shazaar is ruled by a monarchy. Although mostly farmland, Shazaar borders a range of bleak wastelands. Shazaar is famed for its cavalry, ‘wild riders but clever fighters and well disciplined.’ These may be analogous with a range of frontier or marcher forces such as early Norman knights, Anglo-Scottish border horse or eastern European Cossack or Deli cavalry.

Shazaarians are described as wearing bronze armour under grey, brown and black jackets.

Foot troops are presumed to be militia raised from farms with cavalry being provided by retained medium and heavy ‘feudal’ troops supplemented by light horse used to animal herding.

Lormyr, Argimiliar, Pykaraid and Filkhar (southern barbarians): blue and white checked clothing is most common. Breeches and cloaks can also be worn in bright colours, scarlet and green is noted, some of these will be checked also. The clothing gives these forces a celtic flavour which is carried though to the troop types. Some armour can also be checked.

Filkhar is noted for its long handled axes.

Ilmioria is a pleasant land of forest and farmland divided in a number of large city states or Duchies. As suggested, each state is presided over by a Duke supplemented by a council of advisors. The Duchies are bound together by treaties and trade agreements and have formed a national senate. Sorcery is rarely practised and Law is the nominal allegiance.

Fur caps and chequered cloaks are common clothing as are colourful doublets and hose. Ilmioria is also noted for producing fine tooled leather.

Vilmir is a nation dominated by Law. A religious and noble hierarchy presides over a harsh and bureaucratic tax regime. Although nominally headed by a king, the land is often subject to civil war between conflicting noble groups. A reasonable parallel may be medieval England suring the reigns of King Stephen or Richard I but with excessive church influence.

All adult males spend five years in Vilmir’s military, serving in one of five legions. The Grey Defenders are a military elite acting as a combined internal security unit and thought police.

Most citizens wear drab grey with nobles clad in austere white or black.

All of this was found in the HOTT supplement "Wargaming in the Age of Elric of Melnibonē" by Declan McHenry."

I have never heard of this. Is it a book? Where is it available from?

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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #50 on: February 27, 2015, 08:44:47 PM »
I have never heard of this. Is it a book? Where is it available from?

The 'Elric Saga' is a book series, by Michael Moorcock. They're great fun and available from most international sellers of used and new books and have recently been republished in a very nicely done series of 'Definite Editions' by Gollancz. The information in the quote is gathered from a large number of books as far as I can tell.

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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
« Reply #51 on: February 27, 2015, 09:56:25 PM »
For those interested in Elric and the Melnibonians there is this...
http://titan-comics.com/c/120-elric-the-ruby-throne/
Highly recommended.

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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2015, 09:02:48 AM »
Sorry should have been sharper with the cut and paste. The trials of posting while on the move.
I meant I had never heard of the Hott supplement by Declan McHenry.

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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2015, 08:45:45 AM »
I don't know - I simply read about it in TMP. I looked for it in the net and found the document in one of those document-storage sites like scribd, but it asked me to register to access it so i could not take a look at it. Aside from that, i remember someone posting HOTT lists for Corum and Elric's worlds (the first ones were quite impressive), but they unfotunately disappeared from the net a while ago.

BTW, did you notice the "Warfare in the Young Kingdoms" on this forums? http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=8047.0


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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2015, 09:42:20 PM »
Maybe not for Melniboné itself - unless as Yyrkoon's personal retinue - but Werewoolf Minis (specialized in 'quasi WHFB / WH40K miniatures "Sacred Band of Lust" (Slaanesh worshippers, obviously) may well find a home in Elric's world.
- command
- sword & shield
- halberd

Then they are rather... surprising when seem from the back:

But Melnibonean culture was not the only 'weird' one in those times...

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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2015, 10:00:01 PM »

Then they are rather... surprising when seem from the back:



 :o To say the least!  lol

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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
« Reply #56 on: March 23, 2015, 02:10:24 AM »
Sorry should have been sharper with the cut and paste. The trials of posting while on the move.
I meant I had never heard of the Hott supplement by Declan McHenry.
https://beta.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/HOTT/files/The%20Young%20Kingdoms/
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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
« Reply #57 on: March 23, 2015, 02:43:59 PM »
I guess that's the reply to chainmail bikinis and plate metal crop tops.  o_o

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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard.
« Reply #58 on: March 24, 2015, 10:25:48 AM »
I guess that's the reply to chainmail bikinis and plate metal crop tops.  o_o

Yep!

There will be none of those in my Melnibonean Army.
I will leave that kind of thing to those that feel the need for them.... ::)

I shall be sticking to the original Citadel EC figures with a few Citadel Elves from the same era thrown in as they should blend in pretty well.



I should be ready to get going with this soon, as I have just received notification that my castings are on their way, which will mean that I will have plenty of my own Guards to add to the army.

A large unit of these chaps should look pretty imposing....



....I just need to convert a couple into the command figures.


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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The Guard on Parade.
« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2015, 01:02:07 PM »
I now have the Guard back from the caster.

I just have to add a character figure and convert a couple into a musician and standard bearer and they are ready for painting.



I also have a few too many, so if anyone is interested in any, send me a PM.
I cannot sell them but would be willing to trade my excess figures.
 :D


 

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