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Offline Mason

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The Army of Melnibone: First spear unit assembled (22/10)
« on: February 18, 2015, 02:25:14 PM »
A second attempt at putting together my interpretation of the Army of Melnibone, using the WFB 3rd edition High Elf army list as a basis to build around.

This second attempt begins on page 5 with the conversions for the new troops, and the first painted unit can be found on page 6.

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I seem to be having trouble finding decent information or images of the Army of Melnibone.

Short of re-reading all the books again (it has been some time....). I cannot seem to find good reference material.
It is easy to find plenty on Elric and friends, and pictures from the graphic novels, but beyond that not a lot.

Anyone know any good sources?

« Last Edit: October 22, 2019, 12:17:58 AM by Mason »

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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2015, 04:07:47 PM »
Have you tried the multiverse forum?
You might get lucky and Moorcock himself will offer some thoughts :)

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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2015, 06:16:10 PM »
I haven't read the Eric books in at least 20 years, so I don't recall much in the way of specific details. Citadel's old range of figures is one interpretation.

http://www.solegends.com/citec/index.htm

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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2015, 07:46:07 PM »
There is not a lot of detail regarding the look of Melnibone's army but after a recent re-read I found I was seeing a lot of 16th century references to parts of armor and clothing.

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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2015, 08:09:36 PM »
There was a topic discussing it in Moorcock's Miscelany but i cannot find it. There were also army lists for OOT, but  neither i can find them. Anyway, if you look at this link:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=8047.0

Inside there you can find this interesting assesment:

"Heldrak answered well: the Young Kingdoms are pretty il-defined and thinly written.
But we have a few clues nonetheless:
Dharijor is an expansionist state ruled by a king and a small noble class. Cavalry are equipped with horse armour and described as knights. Armour and helmet plumes are generally black although nobles may have more colour and decoration. King Sarasto is noted as wearing dark yellow armour.

Foot soldiers are mentioned in black armour and equipped with halberds. Archers are assumed from the description of a battle involving Dharijorian troops which opens with ‘a rattling black cloud’ of arrows.

Jharkor is ruled by a king and a nobility (although after the death of King Dharmit, Queen Yishana assumes the throne). Jharkorian knights are recorded in gold armour, charging at the gallop with drawn longswords.

Infantry weapons are not described but probably are a mix of bow, javelin and spear. Infantry can be supplemented by camp followers, slaves and serfs. It is not clear whether the latter formed some kind of ‘rising out.’

The White Leopards are an elite guard of 500 picked men who ‘run as swiftly as horses, are as strong as mountain cats and ferocious as blood-mad sharks – they are trained to kill and killing is all they know.’ They are wiped out fighting a rearguard action, in the face of hopeless odds, at the battle of Sequaloris. They fight on foot and are clad in silver armour emblazoned with a leopard.

Tarkesh is a northern state that provides excellent sailors and ships. Galleys are long and low with a single bank of 10-50 pairs of oars crewed exclusively by free warriors. These men tend to be short and dark faced with black hair and beards.

Horsemen are described as knights clad in thick blue armour with red, purple or white plumes and armed with lances. Foot soldiers outnumber horse by about five to one. Infantry weapons are not described but, given the nautical influence of Tarkesh, are likely to be a mix of sword, axe and bow.

Purple towns is an island specialising in trade and ruled by a council of merchants consisting of the nine wealthiest men.

Armour is generally toughened brown leather supplemented by ornate gilded breastplates and helmets. Cloaks and banners are exclusively purple. Some individuals are noted as carrying large axes that require some strength to wield and this may suggest a trained core. Ships crew are generally armed with cutlasses and shortswords.

Shazaar is ruled by a monarchy. Although mostly farmland, Shazaar borders a range of bleak wastelands. Shazaar is famed for its cavalry, ‘wild riders but clever fighters and well disciplined.’ These may be analogous with a range of frontier or marcher forces such as early Norman knights, Anglo-Scottish border horse or eastern European Cossack or Deli cavalry.

Shazaarians are described as wearing bronze armour under grey, brown and black jackets.

Foot troops are presumed to be militia raised from farms with cavalry being provided by retained medium and heavy ‘feudal’ troops supplemented by light horse used to animal herding.

Lormyr, Argimiliar, Pykaraid and Filkhar (southern barbarians): blue and white checked clothing is most common. Breeches and cloaks can also be worn in bright colours, scarlet and green is noted, some of these will be checked also. The clothing gives these forces a celtic flavour which is carried though to the troop types. Some armour can also be checked.

Filkhar is noted for its long handled axes.

Ilmioria is a pleasant land of forest and farmland divided in a number of large city states or Duchies. As suggested, each state is presided over by a Duke supplemented by a council of advisors. The Duchies are bound together by treaties and trade agreements and have formed a national senate. Sorcery is rarely practised and Law is the nominal allegiance.

Fur caps and chequered cloaks are common clothing as are colourful doublets and hose. Ilmioria is also noted for producing fine tooled leather.

Vilmir is a nation dominated by Law. A religious and noble hierarchy presides over a harsh and bureaucratic tax regime. Although nominally headed by a king, the land is often subject to civil war between conflicting noble groups. A reasonable parallel may be medieval England suring the reigns of King Stephen or Richard I but with excessive church influence.

All adult males spend five years in Vilmir’s military, serving in one of five legions. The Grey Defenders are a military elite acting as a combined internal security unit and thought police.

Most citizens wear drab grey with nobles clad in austere white or black.

All of this was found in the HOTT supplement "Wargaming in the Age of Elric of Melnibonē" by Declan McHenry."

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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2015, 08:53:12 PM »
Thanks for the tips, chaps.

Nothing too specific for Melnibone then...?

That suits me, as I am going to be using the High Elf list in WHFB 3rd edition to build the army around.
All the extra info that you fellas have provided have gotten me thinking about making some opposition (in the future) using another list to build a Young Kingdoms or Pan Tang force.
Hmmmm.....

As I now have enough figures to make a start on the army, I will be doing so shortly.
A few need to be stripped but plenty to be getting on with.

I will post some pics of them soon.
I just want to try out my idea for armour on some other old classics first to make sure it will give me look that I am after,
 ;)


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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2015, 09:25:05 PM »
I posted a few scans of images from the comic book adaptations on this thread a few years ago:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=8047.msg94447;topicseen#msg94447

They are pretty random but may help you make some decisions about the direction you want to take.

Whenever I consider this as a project, I am always tempted by the Sidhe from Celtos or the Irregular Elves from Ral Partha. So far I have resisted, but it's only a matter of time.  lol

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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2015, 09:35:38 PM »
Aye celtos stuff is a ringer, also some of the mantic stuff as they are rangy too but perhaps too much armour?

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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2015, 09:53:02 PM »
I posted a few scans of images from the comic book adaptations on this thread a few years ago:
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=8047.msg94447;topicseen#msg94447

They are pretty random but may help you make some decisions about the direction you want to take.

Cheers, JollyBob.
That book is now on order.



Whenever I consider this as a project, I am always tempted by the Sidhe from Celtos or the Irregular Elves from Ral Partha. So far I have resisted, but it's only a matter of time.  lol

Aye celtos stuff is a ringer, also some of the mantic stuff as they are rangy too but perhaps too much armour?

Both good suggestions, and plenty of options out there, but I am going with the Citadel Melniboneans for my army as I have just been collecting as many as I can get my hands on.
I have always liked the models and they should paint up fairly quickly too (I hope!).


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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2015, 10:03:32 PM »
Another project,cripes!
Moorcock,lovely; have a look at the old Chaosium RPG,that should,I daresay give you some information :)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormbringer_%28role-playing_game%29
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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2015, 10:11:33 PM »
I've always thought that Prince Nuada had a bit of an Elric vib

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Re: The Army Melnibone; Any good links?
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2015, 11:29:19 PM »
I've always thought that Prince Nuada had a bit of an Elric vib

Cheers

I heartily agree.
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Moorcock,lovely; have a look at the old Chaosium RPG,that should,I daresay give you some information :)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormbringer_%28role-playing_game%29

I have the GW version and shall be perusing more fully for ideas.
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Another project,cripes!

Two actually.
I have picked up a few damaged models from the old Citadel Eternal Champion range whilst collecting the Melniboneans.
Personalities mainly.
Some of those are already being converted into Eldar Pirates and one is going to be cast up as a Guard version of a spearman for this project.
Just putting the finishing touches on the first few now.
 ;)


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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The ideas stage.
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2015, 12:41:04 AM »
Don't discount the idea of the Sidhe from Celtos. The running dragons take to the addition of wings very well too. The certainly look the part!

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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The ideas stage.
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2015, 01:13:14 AM »
I did a series of skirmish games set in the Young Kingdoms for a convention. A lot of pictures posted here:

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=65268.0


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Re: The Army of Melnibone: The ideas stage.
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2015, 08:45:20 AM »
There is a new comic interpretation out:

http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Moorcocks-Elric-Vol-Throne/dp/1782761241

Moorcock didn't have anything to do with it but said he really liked it and thought the plot changes made the story better.

The next volume 'Stormbringer' should have Melnibonian soldiers defending Immir and dragon riders illustrated, but it won't be out until April 21 ...  :(

http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Moorcocks-Elric-Vol-Throne/dp/1782761241

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