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Offline FramFramson

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Who makes interwar Americans?
« on: January 01, 2016, 10:43:42 PM »
Interestingly, I can't seem to find anyone who has a range of figures suitable as interwar Americans. The only ones I know of are the few offered by Bob Murch through  pulpfigures.com and even then all the sailors have been withdrawn, leaving just a few pulp Marines.

For many nations, you could use a lot of late WWI forces in place of interwar troops, but the Americans just had to be different, changing uniforms in the early 20's, constantly fiddling with kit throughout the period, and with further uniform changes ranging from 1939-41 that means neither WWI nor WWII Americans are fully suitable.

Now, there's some converting which can be done, and due to funding shortages and cutbacks, using WWI troops unaltered may even work in some cases, but interestingly there appear to be few if any WWI Americans either. The only ones I know of are the Great War ones available through Brigade (HLBS used to have some, IIRC, but no longer).


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Re: Who makes interwar Americans?
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2016, 11:04:24 PM »
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Offline FramFramson

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Re: Who makes interwar Americans?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2016, 12:05:22 AM »
I could live just fine with Bob's range if there were an officer or two to go with it. Not sure what to use, though at one point I did some research on American interwar uniforms which I referenced here: http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=70847.0 

I've emailed Bob to see if the sailors will be put back into production at any point (maybe he's resculpting them?) but no answer yet (it's the holidays though).

Offline Sunjester

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Re: Who makes interwar Americans?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2016, 12:15:40 AM »
Tiger Miniatures have some US Navy figures that would do for 1920s.
http://www.tigerminiatures.co.uk/page16.htm

Offline Cory

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Re: Who makes interwar Americans?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2016, 05:35:08 AM »
I used Brigade Games US marines from their Caribbean Wars range. Not exact but closest to field kit for the era I could find.
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Offline commissarmoody

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Re: Who makes interwar Americans?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2016, 06:25:53 AM »
I used Brigade Games US marines from their Caribbean Wars range. Not exact but closest to field kit for the era I could find.
I have a few of the same, Still sadly the range is not complete though. Its like when I grip about not having a Korean war range. No one even makes late war US that would even fit for the first year of the fighting let alone North Korean or Chines forces.

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: Who makes interwar Americans?
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2016, 03:10:44 PM »
You can supplement the BG Marines with some of the dismounted cavalry from the Old West range. They are circa 1917 for the Meican Punitive Expedition. Of course they are all wearing leather cavalry leggings but shouldn't be too hard to convert. Nice looking photos judging by the photos. Paul Hicks sculpts IIRC.  Mystery as to why here are no mounted versions.

http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/American-West--Western_c_40.html

Nobody makes the 1920s stepped collar temperate uniform and it's not really any surprise, part from guarding the mail, there's not much action to be seen for the period. I believe though that considerable stocks of the old Great War uniforms existed into the 1930s and I suspect the National Guard would still sport that uniform style so you can probably still get use out of the Brigade Games Great war range.
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Offline traveller

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Re: Who makes interwar Americans?
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2016, 03:20:01 PM »
The Old Glory ranges for Spanish-American War have some nice sailors. Also the Pershing/Pancho Villa range is a good one

Offline Valerik

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Re: Who makes interwar Americans?
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2016, 04:32:39 PM »
Tiger Miniatures have some US Navy figures that would do for 1920s.
http://www.tigerminiatures.co.uk/page16.htm

They are splendid figures!!

Alas, unlike most other Tiger lines, their Sand Pebble Sailors are MONSTERS!!



Pulp Figures swabbies flanking two Tiger ones.

I wish I had found this picture before I bought, they simply cannot blend.



Tiger's generic sailors, while not very American in appearance, are more reasonably proportioned,
as I've found their other folks to be, & do fit nicely with Murch's matelots.


...I'm travelling that road myself, so lemme caution you on Tiger's "Sand Pebble" sailors, the're HUGE!!
They're beautiful, very nicely detailed, well cast, full of character, but real monsters, 32mm+, won't blend with anybody I've already got.
If I'm lucky I can have 'em crew a boat by themselves, but for now they're quartered apart, not slated for priming anytime soon.



I'm after Coasties myself, like these lads:


I'm planning on sunnier climes myself, but I think this is a GREAT photo!

As is this one!!



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Care to share your intent Fram? 

Knowing what you want to do with these lads, who they will fight, & where,
will help us make better suggestions.

In a hopefully more helpful vein, I've got some Murch Sailors & Marines going spare at the moment.  Whatcha lookin' for?  Whatcha tradin' on?  Drop me a PM OK?

Valerik


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Offline Johnnytodd

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Re: Who makes interwar Americans?
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2016, 11:35:39 PM »
Fram,

I painted my Murch Marines as USN shore party dressed in Navy Dungarees(blue denim trousers and light blue chambray shirts).  



The Army also issued blue denim fatigues (jacket, trousers, shirts and daisy mae hats) for this interwar period. You often see these uniforms worn on maneuvers in conjunction with web equipment.

« Last Edit: January 03, 2016, 11:47:57 PM by Johnnytodd »

Offline Valerik

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Re: Who makes interwar Americans?
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2016, 03:46:50 AM »
I painted my Murch Marines as USN shore party dressed in Navy Dungarees(blue denim trousers and light blue chambray shirts).  
 

GOOD Work there Johnnytodd!!

& A GREAT PLAN!!!  (meaning one I share!!)

I have Murch Marines waiting for this very colour scheme!!
I was worried about filing away their rather prominent pocket flaps,
a feature of modern USN dungarees, but not period chambray shirts.
Looks like a lick or two with file to reduce the buttons will ease my mind!!

The Army also issued blue denim fatigues (jacket, trousers, shirts and daisy mae hats) for this interwar period. You often see these uniforms worn on maneuvers in conjunction with web equipment.


Whatta great photo!!  That's a keeper!!

I've seen the denim outfit worn with that uniquely American functional but ugly
sun helmet, as well as the tin hat.



Love the M1917 .45 revolver in the reverse cross draw holster!! 
Does need a lanyard though...



Judging by the practice cargo net in the background perhaps reversed arms was SOP for embarkation training?  Love the mixed uniforms & various lids!!



Look at all three different 'fatigues' blue denim, herringbone twill green & khaki!!

I'll admit to notiucing the floppy blue denim fatigue hat worn while under arms,
the whole schmeer I need to find!!

& I mean I need to find a Properly Pulpy Person so attired, as well as more photographs!!



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Offline carlos marighela

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Re: Who makes interwar Americans?
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2016, 02:06:01 PM »
The ultimate fashion faux pas... double denim.

By the by I believe the contemporary name for the floppy fatigue hat was the 'Daisy Mae'. Nice pics.

I think Wartime(?) miniatures in Australia picked up the old Cannon Fodder Sand Pebbles range. I know someone did.  Some of Greg Blake's sculpting was pretty ropey, actually some of it was fucking dire, like the Freikorps stuff  but the sailors themselves were the best work he did. I have a number somewhere and they are good sculpts with a good amount of character. The USMC he did... er not so much. if you want sailors, they are worth hunting down, tin hats and sailor caps in the original range including a rather nice Not Steve McQueen figure.

 

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