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Author Topic: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?  (Read 19592 times)

Offline Happy Wanderer

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French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« on: May 16, 2015, 01:15:42 PM »
Gents,

Does anyone have any info on the dispositions of the French Forces in French Somaliland at the time of the Italian invasion of Abyssinia in 1935?

Also, what would these troops look like and are there any likely candidates in 28mm?

Any info appreciated.

Regards

Happy W

Offline lou passejaire

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2015, 02:00:28 PM »
A big regiment de tirailleurs sénégalais de la cote des somalies : 8000 ranks and file , 1500 europeans, the other natives

a FT tank company of 15 renault FT
a mountain artillery battery ( 75mm mountain guns )
a coastal artillery battery
an AA battery ( 75mm CA)
2 meharist platoons
2 militia companies
a Mobile Group including a motorized bataillon and 6 White and Citroen Kegresse Armored cars
12 Potez 25

sand colored colonial kit so no figures avaible at the moment and headgear :
europeans : sun helmet ( quite the same that the german one ) .
natives : fez


the center figure is a cameleer  ;)
« Last Edit: May 16, 2015, 02:16:02 PM by lou passejaire »
Dans les situations critiques, quand on parle avec un calibre bien en pogne, personne ne conteste plus. Y'a des statistiques là-dessus.

Offline dadlamassu

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2015, 02:06:43 PM »
French Forces Landing in Djibouti 1935


'He could have lived a risk-free, moneyed life, but he preferred to whittle away his fortune on warfare.'
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Offline lou passejaire

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2015, 02:26:16 PM »
oups :
the coastal guns were 164mm mod 1893 ones


Offline Anna Elizabeth

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2015, 02:30:46 PM »
Wow, I'm impressed with your knowledge, lou passejaire. :)

Thank you for sharing. :) I wonder if we could get Artizan or someone to make these figures? I'd do a good skirmish force if they were available.

Offline lou passejaire

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2015, 02:43:11 PM »
i have discussed with the Perry's ... senegaleses seem's to be in their list of "to do"  ;)
for the europeans ( ie most of the artillery, and infantry Officers and NCO's ) you can use some of the Perry foreign legion with DAK box sun helmets .
for the senegaleses, you have to wait  :D

the problem is that nobody produce a 75mm mountain gun .

( and it's not knowledge, just a matter of documentation  ;) )

Offline Anna Elizabeth

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2015, 02:49:31 PM »
Perry Senegalese will be awesome! :)

And I appreciate your willingness to share your documentation. :)

Offline lou passejaire

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2015, 02:52:46 PM »
oups , i have done a mistake on the original question .
i gave the answer for 1939 ( 1938 in reality )
in 1935, there was only in french Somaliland :
A  regiment de tirailleurs sénégalais de la cote des somalies : around 1000 ranks and file , 100 europeans, the other natives
a coastal artillery battery
an AA battery ( 75mm CA)
2 meharist platoons
2 militia companies.

Reinforcements were send in 1938 . :?

Offline carlos marighela

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2015, 03:08:20 PM »
Well until such time as someone does make a dedicated range of Senegalese in 28mm, these would probably make reasonable proxies:

http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/Askari-I-5_p_382.html
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Ficou marcado na história
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Offline Anna Elizabeth

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2015, 03:14:40 PM »
Well until such time as someone does make a dedicated range of Senegalese in 28mm, these would probably make reasonable proxies:

http://brigadegames.3dcartstores.com/Askari-I-5_p_382.html

^Thanx! I could use those anyway, nice minis. :)

Offline Arlequín

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2015, 05:07:47 PM »
oups , i have done a mistake on the original question .

I think we can let it pass this time. Don't let it happen again.  ;)

To echo Anna Elizabeth, I am in awe of your knowledge as usual.  :)

Offline lou passejaire

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2015, 10:38:38 PM »
sometimes , i read half of the question before answering ... ;)

my knowledge is not universal, i have a f---ing problem with the registration numbers and vehicle names of the free french in syria ... and i can't found ... >:(

Offline traveller

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2015, 08:25:56 AM »

Offline Anna Elizabeth

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2015, 11:47:54 AM »
Maybe these can be used for the askaris:

http://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/FRN06_Senegalese_Rifles_4--product--4040.html

Nice minis. Looks like they are carrying Martini-Henry rifles?

Offline Happy Wanderer

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Re: French forces in French Somaliland c.1935-36?
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2015, 01:00:23 PM »
Gents,

Thanks for the great response there..really good.

So, just looking at a bit more detail on the troops in 1935:

A  regiment de tirailleurs sénégalais de la cote des somalies : around 1000 ranks and file , 100 europeans, the other natives
a coastal artillery battery
an AA battery ( 75mm CA)
2 meharist platoons
2 militia companies.

I guess the equipment is manned by European French troops and the sénégalais are the rank and file as noted. What figures other than Brigade game link (which are quite nice, but limited to 5 poses) will likely do for these sénégalais types...any ideas? I was thinking more in the line of the Hicks style advancing, charging, loading and firing poses.....just throwing it out there to see if any other troops can be used in the mix here....Woodbine do a single figurine pack. Would the Empress Eritrean Askaris do just as well for French sénégalais? If so then perhaps they could do double duty..Eritrean Askari's one day...French sénégalais the next...?




Cheers

HappyW

 

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