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Offline darthgus

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Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« on: July 29, 2015, 09:17:10 AM »
Anyone else buy these model?

I was quite keen not to buy more models, and just reuse what I have. But, I failed and I bought a box.

Got to admit while the models look good and the details are sharp though I'm a little disappointed.

Each model is basically a body on to which you stick arms and a head, plus some extra gear. I had hoped to integrate my Mordheim plastics, I guess thats going to be a lot more work than I had expected.

But the biggest disappointment for me is that integral bases, going to be a lot of time with a razor saw.

Also there are only 5 variant bodies and none of them are armoured, sure they might have armour under all that cloth, but none are obvious. Really you have a box of thugs, which is what I need right now I guess.

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2015, 09:35:17 AM »
As good as they look, I too was disappointed by the integral bases. I simply do not understand why manufacturers cannot have a peg under each foot - it saves drilling the feet for pins, and they are easy to clip off if you don't want them. The integral bases can be removed (and I know some folks to like them), but if they are going onto plastic bases most of the time anyway, they are certainly not required at all if you stick them together with a solvent-based glue/cement.

With regard to the armoured bodies, I was a bit surprised to see all five "full" bodies too. I would have expected at least one "split" torso in order to offer the chance of having an armoured body, or one with a long coat, etc.

Still, I understand that there is a second plastic kit planned, which will allow you to build more "themed" henchmen (although I have no idea what "themed" means exactly).

An option might be to try combining them with Fireforge Foot Sergeants? It involves buying yet more models ( ::) ) but should give you the extra variety you're missing. I understand from others that the two boxes are a very good match scale-wise.

Offline Captain Blood

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2015, 10:49:55 AM »
Well I like integral bases and hate the obtrusive platforms known as slottas, so they suit me.

I guess if you're a paid-up member of the slottocracy though, the idea of pegs on the feet and separate integral bases with holes (separate integral!) makes sense. Good idea really. Best of both worlds that way.

I haven't started on my box yet, but hope to soon. I will be mashing-up with Perry and Fireforge parts for sure though, mainly to create more Games of Thrones figures. Not really that interested in Frostgrave itself (sorry!)

I do think there are a lot of nice components for the converter included in the box. The fact that there are only 5 bodies is a bit of a let-down, I agree. And they are also super-chunky - but then I guess they are swaddled against the snows of the frozen city etc etc...

Anyway, I'm looking forward to kitbashing a few of them. I think they'll work out well  :)

Offline Magos Kasen

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2015, 11:00:44 AM »
I like the box for what it is. I'm using it to build generic 'henchmen' units of lower level hirelings - thugs, archers, infantry etc. These are expendable and probably won't last long enough to warrant special models etc anyway, and this way they can bulk out the warbands of any type of wizard. The specialists I intend to be more... specialised. And each wizard will probably have suitably themed companions.

The kit mixes will with the Perry and GW parts I've tried on it. My biggest complaint is the way quite a few of the frostgrave arms don't quite merge into the bodies smoothly, but it's a small complaint at most.

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2015, 11:02:37 AM »
I guess if you're a paid-up member of the slottocracy though, the idea of pegs on the feet and separate integral bases with holes (separate integral!) makes sense. Good idea really. Best of both worlds that way.

Just to point out here, I'm not a fan of slottas either...  :-X Big things stuck to models' feet just adds to the model prep and slows down the process of getting stuff ready to paint for me.

I liked the idea of "separate integral" bases though! I suppose that if you're using Renedra flat bases, you can just trim down the pegs for the same effect. Two snips with some clippers is still easier and faster than any base or slotta tab removal either way.

I haven't started on my box yet, but hope to soon. I will be mashing-up with Perry and Fireforge parts for sure though, mainly to create more Games of Thrones figures. [...] Anyway, I'm looking forward to kitbashing a few of them. I think they'll work out well  :)

I can't wait to see what you do with them!  8)

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2015, 12:00:27 PM »

I liked the idea of "separate integral" bases though! I suppose that if you're using Renedra flat bases, you can just trim down the pegs for the same effect. Two snips with some clippers is still easier and faster than any base or slotta tab removal either way.


Yes, truthfully there's no real reason for plastic figures to have bases or tabs at all these days, given that a dob of liquid poly cement on the bottom of each foot would allow a secure and permanent bond to either a slotta base, a Renedra-style plastic base, or indeed to any scrap of plastic card that could then be mounted in turn on a washer or coin, if you're that way inclined when it comes to basing (which I am  :))...

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2015, 05:24:05 PM »
I love multi-part plastic figures, so I am really really looking forward to playing with these guys.  And fortuitously this summer I have picked up some of the Fireforge sets.

Eagerly awaiting today's mail...

Offline Philhelm

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2015, 07:13:40 PM »
I really like the Frostgrave Soldiers kit, and can't wait to get my hands on them.  I think I like them more than the old Mordheim kit even, since they have a more generic fantasy aesthetic.

There is a rumor of another kit which will allow some way to theme your party; I can't wait.

I also hope that we might see a small Wizard kit in the future.  Perhaps have four bodies with several heads, arms, and bits and bobs to make a customized Frostgrave wizard.  I really hope this happens at some point.

Offline DancesWithHippos

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2015, 07:20:41 PM »
I actually like them a lot. I assembled all of them and have pretty good variation. None of my figures look a like and that is a big plus. I also incorporated two Gripping Beast Saxons in for their chainmail and found that they work nicely. I even used some GW stuff on them and that also seems to fit ok.

Offline darthgus

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2015, 07:46:15 PM »
I've built a couple of mine and my irritation is diminishing.

Removing the integral base is a piece of cake with clippers. I was afraid that these would be like the Mantic DeadZone minis where the plastic was hard and brittle, and clipping away the base tended to cause leg snapage.

The Soldiers however are of a softer plastic which has 2 advantages...
1. they don't snap when you cut them
2. You can use polycement to glue them (the Mantic plastics need superglue).

Offline mweaver

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2015, 11:21:12 PM »
For me, the Mordheim human adventurers (later repackaged as Empire militia) have yet to be beat... mainly because the separate legs and torso options made them more flexible than any set I have seen since.  That said, there are a lot of nice plastic sets out there now, including (from the looks of them) these Frostgrave fellows.

If there is another "specialist" box later, I hope it includes at least some separate leg/torso bits.  For us assembling figures, that is a measly one extra bit to glue together - a small price in time and glue to pay for a substantial increase in flexibility.  Since these figures are not intended to be ranked up, I cannot think of any innate advantage to legs and torsos as one piece, unless it saves the company $$ somehow.

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Offline bandit86

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2015, 06:28:27 AM »
The box set is cool, the soldiers are a bit smaller than I would have liked.  I am more disappointed with he lack of equipment couple of bags and rope.
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Offline Daniel36

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2015, 09:16:42 AM »
I don't have them yet, but what I like is that they are very themed towards cold climates, and I think that it is just something we don't see much in wargames, so it is something original. The same goes for the wizards. I am not very inclined to use models I already own because they don't look like they are well dressed for the job.

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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2015, 09:33:16 AM »
Daniel36
use a bit of putty and you can make your figure in a winter theme as I am doing.
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Re: Soldiers of Frostgrave (boxset)
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2015, 03:55:51 PM »
It's an old quote, but you can't please all the people all the time.

I'm very happy that a lot of people like our Soldiers, they took a lot of time to design so it's great people appreciate that. The split torsos was a choice we could have gone either way with, so apologies to those who preferred us to go the other way.

I've heard they are too small for some people. In all honesty, I'm not sure what figures you have that our plastics are too small to go with, but what I can say is whatever figures they are, they were nothing we considered in the design process so this isn't the range for you.

Equally, we chose to put the plastic base on the figures as a design choice. If it's not for you, then I refer to my opening statement.


 

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