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Author Topic: Super cheap VOTOMS and its gone again.  (Read 19490 times)

Offline YPU

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Super cheap VOTOMS and its gone again.
« on: November 16, 2015, 08:34:29 AM »
Spotted a link to this on TMP (I swear, I only did it once) HLJ is selling fatty sets for 1.44 Euro a piece. These are action figures rather then model kits, and only 8cm tall but that makes them very nice for 15mm. I ordered 6. Only thing I don't like about the design is the weapon, so I will be printing some replacements for that myself. I'm thinking something between a fn p-90 and a auto cannon.

http://www.hlj.com/product/TAK14139
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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2015, 08:53:41 AM »
Interesting! If they're 1/48 like the description says they ought to work for 28mm as well (in fact they'd even be slightly oversized by VOTOMS canon standards).

My only hesitation is that I already play Heavy Gear Blitz (which is 12mm), so I'm not sure I need VOTOMS-style mechs in another scale :)
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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2015, 09:00:19 AM »
My only hesitation is that I already play Heavy Gear Blitz (which is 12mm), so I'm not sure I need VOTOMS-style mechs in another scale :)

I have been tempted by HG for ages, since I do like their look but price+shipping always turned me off in the end. I was hoping the kick-started plastics would change that but now I have these, I'm not sure I need them any-more. Ah who am I kidding, I always need more mechs.

And your right, a squad of these might pull double duty for 28 and 15mm as long as you don't open the cockpit.

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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2015, 09:45:04 AM »
And your right, a squad of these might pull double duty for 28 and 15mm as long as you don't open the cockpit.

Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't they work in 28mm even with the cockpit interiors visible? 28mm is in the neighbourhood of 1/56 so a 1/48 mech should be slightly bigger than required.

(That is, unless you assume that regardless of scale, the cockpit as modelled on the mech doesn't leave enough room to realistically accommodate actuators, hydraulics, servos and whatnot for the shoulders/arms.)

And yeah, HGB is expensive. I'm going to stop using the actual HGB rules partly because I want to get away with using fewer figures.

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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2015, 11:15:49 AM »
1/48 scale VOTOMS are perfect for 28mm. You'll easily be able to fit a Guardsman in the cockpit (or use the existing pilot).

I have 1/35, 1/60 and 1/48 scale VOTOMs and if I had had the choice of injection-plastic kits, I would have gone for 1/48 (unfortunately, there aren't many of them).

I will be using converted 1/60 scale VOTOMs for my Grymn Mech army but have converted 1/35 in the past.


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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2015, 11:25:21 AM »
Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't they work in 28mm even with the cockpit interiors visible? 28mm is in the neighbourhood of 1/56 so a 1/48 mech should be slightly bigger than required.

You are correct, I said "and 15mm if you don't open the cockpit." Should probably have specified that better. they should work for 28mm just fine, assuming the sculpt of the pilots fit with the models your using. (we all know how much variation there is in "28" mm)

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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2015, 11:29:00 AM »
These guys are the weird kids of the Votoms line. I haven't tried painting them, but the plastic on them feels just a little different from the styrene of all of the other kits. More like polypropylene.  I'm not sure how well paint would stick.

As for the size, when these kits come with standing models, the figures scale perfectly with 28mm. The seated pilots, though (and thus the cockpits) are a little on the small side.

While it isn't this specific kit, I did a review of another of the Actic Gear kits a few years ago.
http://overloadedqueue.blogspot.com/2010/07/opening-box-votoms-148-ag-vtm03-chaos.html
This particular kit doesn't have this level of paint or amount of accessories, but if you wanted a table of robots, you can't beat this price.

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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2015, 11:33:11 AM »
These guys are the weird kids of the Votoms line. I haven't tried painting them, but the plastic on them feels just a little different from the styrene of all of the other kits. More like polypropylene.  I'm not sure how well paint would stick.

Hm good to know, luckily I have a pretty aggressive plastic pre-primer lying around that should probably make it porous enough to have paint stick OK. and beyond that enough varnish always helps. Still now that I'm warned I'm going to do some tests first on those guns, since I won't be using them anyway.

Offline Rhoderic

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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2015, 11:36:08 AM »
You are correct, I said "and 15mm if you don't open the cockpit."

Ah, sorry, I misread you there.

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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2015, 11:59:25 AM »
They are more polythene (like Airfix toy soldiers) than polystyrene so painting them would need to be thought about.

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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2015, 12:07:13 PM »
Luckily they have no thin parts so the issue you often have with toy soldier type models, ie weapons or arms bending and paint chipping and flaking from there, shouldn't be an issue, but yes, painting will need pre and post work. In any case I'm going to wait till they actually arrive to see how things fare before I start worrying. And heck at this price losing one to a paint mishap I could live with.  ;D

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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2015, 05:03:31 PM »
The one time I don't have money to spare on them.  To be fair if these were the Tortoises, I'd find a way.  The Fatty's never did it for me.
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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2015, 09:56:33 PM »
Thanks for the heads-up. I've been looking for some mini mechs/robots for a project and I can't go past 5 for under $25AUD including shipping.  :D

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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2015, 10:04:12 PM »
I may have bought 10...

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Re: Super cheap VOTOMS
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2015, 09:33:19 PM »
Thanks for the heads up!
These will be perfect hardsuits for 28mm.

I may have bought 10...

I might have done the same...

 

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