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Offline 1898 Miniaturas

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2017, 08:05:02 PM »
Question.

All my fellow gamers keep saying the Spanish did not take their flags into combat.

True?

False?  "Gamer 'common knowledge'?

Sometimes yes, sometimes no?

Again, beautiful but no more "large figures" for me.  I need to get rid of so many this year for apartment living in 2018...

Your friends are right, regimental flags were not carried in combat, just smaller company flags in different colours (blue, crimson) and designs. But looks good on the battlefield! However, this is why we always give the option of separate arms for the standard bearer, to turn him into a regular NCO –check the third pic in the row, with the standard bearer and the pointing NCO, it's the same figure with different arms.

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2017, 08:51:57 PM »
Well, there's a difference between flags and colours. For example, the Brits stopped carrying colours into battle in the 1880s, yet there is photographic evidence of British columns in East Africa during the Great War flying a Union Jack on the march. And in that show you never quite knew while on the march if you were already on the battlefield or not.

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2017, 01:49:05 PM »
Hi!

Just ordered a bunch of minis for you all.

Can't wait to get my hands on them!
« Last Edit: April 19, 2017, 04:58:53 PM by Ray Rivers »

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2017, 06:48:51 AM »
Hi!

Just ordered a bunch of minis for you all.

Can't wait to get my hands on them!

Thank you Ray!

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2017, 08:21:04 AM »
In fact the next batch of news will be Americans

Great news! Rough Riders I hope? ;D
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Offline Ray Rivers

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2017, 11:05:09 AM »
Rough Riders I hope?

You're so predictable.  ;)

I'd go for Rough Riders as well though..  :D

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2017, 02:31:19 PM »
You're so predictable.  ;)

I'd go for Rough Riders as well though..  :D

The first batch will include both regular infantry and Rough Riders, 3 packs of each.

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2017, 02:56:01 PM »
The first batch will include both regular infantry and Rough Riders, 3 packs of each.

Great news, when can we expect to see them available?

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #53 on: April 20, 2017, 05:14:27 PM »
Great news, when can we expect to see them available?

In about one month I hope!

Offline Ray Rivers

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #54 on: April 21, 2017, 05:44:49 PM »
Wow!

Got my mini's in 2 days!  ;D

Thanks very much.

I'll give you all my first impressions as I have just opened the package and am opening each pack to see what I find.

- Officers have 2 arms for different poses and 2 different heads. (Lots of options here clearly stated on the descriptions.)
- The bases are very thin. THANK YOU!
- Height and chunkiness wise they are very similar to Empress Zulu Wars British Infantry though they scale very well with just about all the minis I have (Ironclad excluded). The difference being that many of the Empress miniatures have a kinda flatish look when viewed from the side. These minis have a nice body structure and are well proportioned.
- Mold lines are minimal
- Some of the straps are a little flat - again think more like Empress and less like Foundry.
- Did somebody say something about the rifles? The rifles are fine.

Some misc. comments.

- I got the Regiment No. 3 flag... its gorgeous.
- Flag bearers with the exception of ES1, Spanish infantry command group advancing, do not have flag poles. I would recommend editing their description to "Flag pole and flag not included."
- I also bought the South East Asia stilt house. The roof is a bit wider than the house and doesn't fit real snug, so I'll have to do some work here. Also, though clearly stating the stilts were not included, it would be nice to have some kind of tutorial for constructing the stilts in the modeling and painting section of the web site. It will, however, make a really nice piece of terrain.
- Fray Cándido Gómez Carreño, párroco de Baler is an great mini! (Thanks!)

I bought enough minis to make 2 regiments of 10-12 men each (with officer and NCO) and a command element of 3 (officer, flag bearer and bugler).

Overall, I'm very happy with my buy. Providing my own flag pole is not an issue and neither is constructing the stilts for the South Asian house.

Am looking forward to getting these painted up. I won't be "stripping" them though or my old eyes would just hemorrhage blood. Besides, looking at the actual uniforms and having watched the movie "1898: Los Ultimos de Filipinas" (a great Spanish flick!) you don't really see them unless you are reaaaally close. Hat tip to Rubén, but I really don't think I could come close to his beautifully painted minis.


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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2017, 05:56:41 PM »
I'm tempted by these minis,nice review,thanks  :)
Cheers
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Offline fantail

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #56 on: April 21, 2017, 09:06:05 PM »
For those of us in Australia, the film that Ray posted above, 1898, OUR LAST MEN IN THE PHILIPPINES, is playing as part of the Spainish film Festival that started on April the 18th.

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2017, 09:57:49 PM »
1898, OUR LAST MEN IN THE PHILIPPINES

Highly recommended.

The photography, acting and story is all first rate. Easily competitive with any Hollywood production.

In fact, I never had much interest in this period of history until I saw this movie.

Offline Leigh Metford

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2017, 12:07:28 AM »
Are the uniforms in that movie still-shot actually rayadillo? That's a close shot of the officer and it just looks like solid light blue-grey. Perhaps the costume designer thought 'if it's good enough for wargamers...'.

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Re: New Company, 1898 Miniatures?
« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2017, 12:11:16 PM »
Yep.

From the movie:



Real:



Check out this link for photos of actual uniforms and equipment (a great resource site for painting up the minis):

¡Rayadillos! The Spanish Colonial Uniform Research Project

Thus my comments... I mean if you want to go to town and show them really close up like Rubén... go for it. But I think that from a few meters away, the "rayos" would have been difficult to see, as is indicated by photos of the time.

 

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