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Author Topic: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria (former BSC 2017 entry)  (Read 20792 times)

Offline Hammers

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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2017, 08:53:16 AM »


So, the wooden dildo is clad in GladPac and strips of newpaper glued in a few layers onto it. Since I am going to make a broken apart fuselage, I need a hull with  fairly thin shell. Next, I am about to sand it and add a layer of spackle.

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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2017, 09:01:36 AM »
Very interesting approach.  8)
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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2017, 09:44:06 AM »
Strangely the sausage sketch out of "Allo Allo" just leapt into my mind.....

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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2017, 01:56:37 PM »
Thanks, chaps. It's a bit learning by doing. It was not enough to oil the dildo, the glue is very firm and stuck to the block. I had to rub the thing quite vigorously to shed the skin. Than I started over by wrapping it in a plastic.

Once the hull is spackled, dry and sanded I will cut panels out of the adhesive alu-tape and paste them to the shell. The next step will be to separate the tail part from the front part. Hopefully I can make this look like the tail has broken off in a crash. I use alu-tape specificlly for this purpose, thinking it will be the most suitable material to replicate an torn up aluminum hull.






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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2017, 12:29:22 PM »
The first aluminum panels have been applied to the fuselage. Looks like a more highend dildo now, doesn't i?



I've layed them on in as large panels as possible, to be able to cut them in to smaller ones later with a scalpel. Rivets will be punched into the panels. Later I will need to take case of the gloss by mimicking oxide, dust and soot.

The end part is sort of ribbed, revealing the framework under the tail. I will replicate this by gluing brass rod onto the maguette and then apply alu-tape on top ot if.

I am quite happy with the result so far. The alu-tape works a treat.
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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2017, 07:43:17 AM »
 :-* :-*very shiny
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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2017, 08:00:22 AM »
:-* :-*very shiny


That! Quite literally

I'd not thought of using aluminium tape: a very interesting approach.

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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2017, 10:53:55 AM »
Does the back of the tape not have a removeable film that you take off before you can stick the tape down? Could you not have pressed rivets in on the reverse side before removing this?

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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2017, 12:49:09 PM »
Does the back of the tape not have a removeable film that you take off before you can stick the tape down? Could you not have pressed rivets in on the reverse side before removing this?

That's an idea. I'll try it out. But I am guessing punching rivet with a small caliber hollow point punch from the positive side will work just as well, if not better. I've tried it before and it works OK.

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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2017, 12:49:44 PM »

That! Quite literally

I'd not thought of using aluminium tape: a very interesting approach.

Thanks, it will be taken down a notch.

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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2017, 02:01:31 PM »
Would you actually need many rivets? The skin is just doped fabric n'est ce pas?

Now if it was a Shackleton....  ten thousnd rivets flying in close formation. :)
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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2017, 03:26:01 PM »
Would you actually need many rivets? The skin is just doped fabric n'est ce pas?

Now if it was a Shackleton....  ten thousnd rivets flying in close formation. :)

If I am not completely misinformed it had an all aluminum skin (and a metal structure).

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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2017, 01:06:14 AM »
If I am not completely misinformed it had an all aluminum skin (and a metal structure).

Not quite.

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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2017, 01:10:50 AM »
I really like where this is going and am grateful to you for posting the whole process as it as it is a very useful technique that I had not thought of before,
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Re: Hammers BSC 2017 entry: Downed Vickers Type 56 Victoria
« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2017, 06:23:27 AM »
Ditto what Mason said, this is another very educational thread.

 

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